Hello Dave,
Well, I for one am sorry to hear you are stopping the mail list Dave.  I
have gotten a lot of very useful information over the years.  I'm not big on
chat, and many of the forums seem to be less than diligently edited.  I have
purchased the digital Steam in the Garden (I buy the paper version from my
local hobby shop), so I guess I will now use the SiG forums to ask my
questions.  I would like to thank you for all the years you have spent
"delivering the mail", and keeping out the spammers.
Best Regards & Many Thanks,
Mitch Nearhood

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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 18:22:44 -0700
From: Dave Cole <c...@45mm.com>
Subject: [SSLiveSteam] The future of SSLiveSteam ...
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Folks:

In 1998 I was yearning for a place to ask questions about my new hobby,
small-scale live steam railroading. I decided to start a mailing list, which
I dubbed SSLIveSteam, and people started joining it.

I posed my questions, got answers and the fact that others might have
benefited from it was pure gravy, from my perspective.

The list survived my 2000 household burglary wherein all my computers were
stolen and it survived a 2005 switch to the its current platform, a
Macintosh 7500, upgraded with a G4 processor, 1 gigabyte of memory and a
pair of 160 GB drives, wherein it runs the Postfix mail server and the
Mailman list server software.

By my count, there have been at least 16,445 messages sent and received on
SSLiveSteam -- I seem to have lost the first few weeks of messages, so it's
certainly been more than 16,500 messages.

(As an aside, you can see many of the messages on the web: 2004-2005
messages are at http://www.mail-archive.com/sslivesteam@colegroup.com/ and
2005 to current are at
http://www.mail-archive.com/sslivesteam@postfix.45mm.com/ )

But times have changed since 1998 or 2000 or even 2005. Most people today
communicate on web-site forum software or on chat servers. 
SSLiveSteam has had only 13 messages in the almost seven months of
2013 and there were only 45 messages in all of 2012.

While the Mac 7500 still chugs along, it is an old man in computer years --
it was built in December 1996 -- and like many old men, it sometimes "falls
asleep" requiring my manual intervention to wake it up. A small task, but it
adds up.

And though you all don't send messages to the server much, the spammers love
that address. For the last couple of years, I have to deal with anywhere
from 20 to 100 pieces of spam per day sent to the list. It's not a whole
hell of a lot of work, but it is an irritant.

For these reasons, I propose to shut down SSLiveSteam, effective July 31.

I will entertain arguments why SSLiveSteam should be continued (I'd move it
to a slightly newer computer and use different software that requires less
maintenance), but my sense is that the list's time has come and gone.

Since becoming editor of STEAM IN THE GARDEN, I developed a nice
full-functioned web site that has extensive forums. I strongly encourage you
to register at http://www.steamup.com/ and use the forums there.

Thanks for all the help all of you provided, both to one another and to me.

\dmc

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