Hey Lars,

I have to admit that I didn't build Stackless on Windows for a long time.
But Visual Studio 2008 works definately.
There is also a pip version in the works, stackless as a pseudo-plugin...

Well, to build it if you have Visual Studio, take the whole project download
from mercurial:

hg clonehttp://hg.python.org/stackless/
hg update v2.7.2-slp

Then open the project with Visual Studio in pcbuild, select the
right version for building (32bit, since PySide is 32bit)
and compile it.

The notes on cpython are applicable as well:

http://docs.python.org/devguide/setup.html#windows-compiling
and the express version of VStudio 2008 should work (but I never used it)

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=14597

cheers - chris


On 12/7/12 8:38 PM, lars van Gemerden wrote:
He Chris,

I assume that the repair just replaced all files included in the download, but given the date i am pretty sure it is the same download i already had.

What compiler would you recommend to build from source (last time i programmed in C(++) was around 1996)?

Cheers, Lars




On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Christian Tismer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Lars,

    what exactly did you load?

    The patch from Anselm is from 2012-09-28.

    python-2.7.2-stackless.msi is still from 2011-12-12.
    As far as I can see, all installers and binary packages are older
    than the patch.

    Eek - you would need to build from source I think.

    ciao - chris


    On 07.12.12 15:48, lars van Gemerden wrote:
    I am more then happy to help solve this problem, but not sure
    exactly how. For example
    C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\PySide\examples\mainwindows\sdi\sdi.py
    or any other example i tried does not crash on exit for me (at
    least not now). My own software does not crash on exit either
    (mostly/only on start-up, but very unpredictably).

    Did anyone try the
    C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\PySide\examples\mainwindows\sdi\sdi.py
    example with PyQt?

    I could make a version of my own code with PyQt, but i wouldn't
    know what to test for since sometimes the suspect crashes don't
    appear for days or weeks.

    One question, i read about Anselms patch above. Is it included in
    the windows distributable on http://www.stackless.com/wiki/Download?

    Cheers, Lars

    PS: I just downloaded the latest version from the wiki ande
     repaired-> no crashes yet :-)


    On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 12:12 PM, lars van Gemerden
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hi Chris,

        "One thing would be interesting but involves tome work:
        Can you install PyQt instead and try the same?"

        I am considering whether i could do so efficiently, setting
        up my libs etc. isn't really my strong suit and i have quite
        a complex program.
        Is there some symptom, test, etc. that could help me
        determine whether a crash is due to the stackless/PySide
        combination? Maybe the .dll that crashed? In that case I
        could switch when i am reasonably sure that the PySide code
        actually triggers the crash. Otherwise i'd have to switch,
        continue working with PyQt and if no seemingly related crash
        occurs for say 2 weeks, report back, which seems a bit
        roundabout.

        Would it be useful if i send the windows error (APPCRASH ...
        etc.)?

        BTW: Most of the crashes i suspect of being related happen
        during program startup, so before any user interaction.

        Cheers, Lars


        On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 3:56 AM, Christian Tismer
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Hi Lars,

            this is good information!
            Since you don't get crashes from using stackless
            features, it is
            pretty clear that the problems must come from things that
            I changed to support stackless features.

            Good to know.
            Still, it would be nice if we had something more
            deterministic to
            cause a crash, especially a crash that occurs without manual
            interaction...

            I think to have a closer look into PySide itself, to see
            if it uses
            structures which are not officially public.

            One thing would be interesting but involves tome work:
            Can you install PyQt instead and try the same?

            thanks & cheers - chris



            On 30.11.12 11:56, lars van Gemerden wrote:
            I am also working with a combination of PySide 1.1.2
            (same installer, but the 1.1.1 version had the same
            problem) and stackless 2.7 on windows and have to agree
            that it is pretty unstable. It is hard to find a pattern
            in the crashes and i do not even know whether i have the
            same problem, only that the crashes come and go, even
            when i do not change anything significant to the code.
            It also happens when i do not call any code that uses
            stackless explicitely (no tasklets are created in the
            portion of code that is actually run, apart from the
            main one I guess). Sometimes i get "unknown opcode"
            exceptions; could that be related?

            It would be very helpful and comforting for the future
            of my project if this were resolved. If I can help, let
            me know ...

            Cheers, Lars


            On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Richard Tew
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Christian Tismer
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                wrote:
                >
                
C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\PySide\examples\mainwindows\sdi\sdi.py
                >
                > Richard, can you please tell me the version of Qt
                and PySide?
                >
                > I will try that on OS X, first, because I'm busy
                with building PySide
                > anyway. What did you install, a win installer
                package, a pip thing
                > or from source?

                I installed PySide-1.1.2.win32-py2.7.exe which I
                downloaded from the
                PySide website.  It uses QT 4.8 going by the PyPI page.

                Yes, sdi.py, like most examples crashes on exit for
                me.  But every
                example I recall trying crashed in much the same way.


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