Hey, lighten up everyone. I'm sure he was only having a laugh.... (although don't sue me if I'm misrepresenting your views, Mark!).
System.out.println("Take chill pill now..."); :-) __________________________________ Steve Earl -----Original Message----- From: Juan Alvarado (Struts List) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:24 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [Resend]Too Slow: Debug Struts + Torque project using JBuilder5 To begin with, I don't see the need for an IDE to debug JSPs. My main need of debugging comes on the business side of things. I guess there must be thousands if not hundreds of thousands of code "weenies" around the world doing their java development. I'm also sure these people are not developing quality code at all and that they are developing worthless applications because they are "weenies". Of course a guy like yourself Mark who is such a code stud doesn't need any of the tools of the trade and I'm sure all of your development is done on some text editor and all of your debugging is done with your suggested system.println. Unfortunately, the rest of us are not as gifted as you and we have to rely on the tools for weenies as you like to call them. We weenies will go ahead and leave the tools for studs like you (system.out.println) alone so that god forbid we don't ever become such a java stud as yourself. ********************************************** Juan Alvarado Internet Developer -- Manduca Management (786)552-0504 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL Instant Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:58 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Resend]Too Slow: Debug Struts + Torque project using JBuilder5 Not to mention that debuggers don't work on JSPs that rely upon EJBs for their data. IDEs are for code weenies. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Dave Derry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:25 AM Perhaps less of a waste of time than waiting on the debugger (the problem that started this thread) then stepping through lots of code. Much quicker, and more enlightening, to think about the problem (as someone else suggested) then insert a println in a strategic location. Also, using xemacs to add a println statement will likely consume a lot less of your companies money than that fancy IDE you want. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Alvarado (Struts List)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:02 PM Subject: RE: [Resend]Too Slow: Debug Struts + Torque project using JBuilder5 > System.out.println() is a great tool if you want to waste your time and your > company's money. I would suggest investing in an IDE you feel comfortable > with. > > > ********************************************** > Juan Alvarado > Internet Developer -- Manduca Management > (786)552-0504 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AOL Instant Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:58 PM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: [Resend]Too Slow: Debug Struts + Torque project using > JBuilder5 > > > System.out.println(). > > ;-) > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Annie Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:02 PM > > Which is the best debug tool for Struts+Torque projects? > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>