Wow, this message really struck me.  Thanks Celeste.  So now I'm
wondering... Do more developers on this list enjoy programming animated,
lively, stuff that make users smile, or invisible, algorithms that can
elegantly interchange bits of data between abstract representations?

-Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haseltine, Celeste [mailto:CHaseltine@;magticket.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:42 AM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: Struts and JRun advice
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> We've been using JRUN 3.1 for the past year or so, and are 
> looking into JRUN
> 4.0 sometime later next year.  Struts 1.02 works fine in JRUN 
> 3.1, but 1.1b2
> does not.  I did finally get it working in JRUN 3.1, and hope 
> to post some
> notes on what I had to do to get it working on both the 
> Struts and JRUN
> boards next week.  But bottom line, if you need to use Struts 
> 1.1b2, go to
> JRUN 4.0.
> 
> Personally, I like Flash, but I hate working with it from a developer
> standpoint.  Since I'm more of a backend coder, I leave the animated
> graphics stuff to some of our other people who are more 
> "graphic arts" types
> and love playing with images.  Give me code over animated 
> images to work
> with every day!!!!!
> 
> Having said that, JRUN 4.0 does use a new feature called 
> Flash Remoting.  By
> using 12 GUI Flash components, you can pass data from your 
> HTML/JSP forms to
> your server.  Check out JRUN's Flash remoting version of the 
> Sun Java Pet
> store to get an idea of how you can use these new GUI 
> components.  I would
> caution you though to do some testing first to see how long 
> it takes to load
> the Flash GUI components.  We still have users using 28.8 
> baud modems, and
> Flash takes too long to download on a 28.8 modem.  
> 
> Good luck, and make sure that you use both the Struts 
> listserver and the
> JRUN forum listsever if you run into problems.
> 
> Celeste Haseltine, PE
> MTL, Inc
> Dallas, TX  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Nicholas [mailto:jakarta@;mobosplash.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:26 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Struts and JRun advice
> 
> 
> I've built 4 struts apps under Tomcat 4 and am about to start 
> a 5th. I'm 
> pretty happy with Tomcat but am considering using 
> Macromedia's JRun in 
> the future. I work at an advertising agency so we do a lot of Flash 
> microsites and Flash elements in our sites and I would like to take 
> advantage of some of JRun's Flash integration.
> 
> I know that java supposed to run everywhere but I see many 
> posts about 
> problems with struts under WebSphere and iPlanet. Anyone have 
> advice or 
> recommendations about JRun? Is anything gained besides the Flash 
> integration?
> 
> Thanks, John Nicholas
> 
> 
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