Ive found the best way to avoid those kind of morons is to work at small companies where any deadwood has nowhere to hide and is quickly pruned :-) Our tech leads really know their stuff here.
-----Original Message----- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2004 06:28 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Life, the Universe and Everything (was: RE: [OT] RE: Memory usage) While the original flame war was less helpful, the question that has emerged from it's ashes is a good one. I don't claim to have all the answers, but I can offer some personal observations. Feel free to disagree. 1. You can do nothing about those who choose not to learn. I've tried changing them and it doesn't work. I consider this a basic fact. 2. You have a great deal of control over your ability to learn. If you aren't big time into learning, then I recommend catching some enthusiasm for it. 3. There will be always be good and bad tech leads. I am a tech lead; I try to be a good one. I can put a String to standard out or standard error! ;-) 4. I had the same frustrations that you have. I made the decision that the best way to restore the balance of good in the universe, was to try to become the kind of tech lead that I would have wanted when I was a newbie/humble grunt. I teach a class on learning Java one lunchtime a week and try to bestow a little wisdom and encouragement whenever I can. I am a Java mentor here and I lead a study group of us that are seeking our Java Certification. 5. No one reads documentation. This is a fact. Learn what is "drop dead fired and escorted from the building" important and then try to auto-generate it. :-) 6. Leadership is a rare commodity. There's a lot of management out there, but precious little leadership. Again, deal with it. Become a leader and just do what needs to be done. This is what I have tended to do. The ol' saying about "it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission" is very true (except I sometimes forget to ask for forgiveness! :-) 7. Black team? How 90's, Our team wears Hawaiian shirts! (Honest. :-) Simon >-----Original Message----- >From: P K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:58 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Memory usage > > >Sorry to continue on this topic. I've learnt a great deal of >non struts stuff on this list and this only adds to it. >I've been bothered (mostly in my mind) with questions about >peoples capabilities and desires when it comes to work. Viru, >this original poster of the question on Memory Usage clearly >has a desire to learn, but what about people who don't? How do >you deal with them? >I currently work with a Tech Lead who wouldn't be able to >output a String to standard out if asked to write a program. I >don't care about her taking credit for the work that we do. >She doesn't provide any leadership whatsoever to the project >except produce paper that no one bothers to read. Have you >guys come across situations like this? What have you done >about it? Don't get me wrong - I am not prone to complaining >nor do I think I am a member of the elite 'Black Team'. >---------------------------------------- >Quoting "Dhaliwal, Pritpal (HQP)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> +1 >> >> I agree with everyone who has responded. We should not >clutter this very >> friendly mailing list with things that don't belong here, >that includes "not >> so nice" responses. I haven't been on many, but this is by >far my favorite >> list, even though I am mainly a spectator. >> >> I lashed out because this question clearly didn't belong >here. If the person >> had followed anything in >http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html, >> it must that they were polite. They certainly didn't do much >investigation >> outside on the internet. The little bit of unfriendliness, I >dunno why it >> came out. Unprofessional, it shouldn't have came out. >> >Even questions that don't belong here deserve to be treated >with respect. That >is the single most obvious characteristic of STRUTS-USER that >is distinctive >(even though it has lots of other good qualities). >Unfortunately, you decided to unload on a poster in a manner >that is decidedly >out of the norm for STRUTS-USER. Your response is the kind of >behavior that >creates problems for the perception of open source projects as >being "friendly" >to users or not. If you think the topic is totally out of scope for >STRUTS-USER, then you should either (a) answer the question >anyway but point >people to where they should really be asking; (b) *gently* >encourage the user >to explore the other resources that are available (the >archives are full of >examples of folks who have done this), or (c) shut your yap >and press DELETE >instead of SUBMIT on your replies :-). >The culture of the STRUTS-USER list has always been >*deliberately* different >from the "you idiot, how could you be so stupid as to ask that >question in that >way" sort of attitude that far too many open source projects have. >Fortunately, despite the fact that this is the >most-subscribed-to user list at >Jakarta (ten short of 3000 at the moment), the occurrences of >rude behavior are >so rare that they immediately attract notice for being out of >character for >what we're trying to achieve :-). I'd say that we've been >doing a pretty good >job maintaining a friendly, welcoming, and helpful community. >I'd also like to >keep it that way. >Craig McClanahan > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
