Daniel and others, This thread has really inspired me. I am going to work with my students to develop Sugar activities. I have James' book. Are there other resources I need?
Thanks. Gerald On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Kevin Mark <kevin.m...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > --- On Wed, 9/19/12, S. Daniel Francis <fran...@sugarlabs.org> wrote: > >> From: S. Daniel Francis <fran...@sugarlabs.org> >> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18 >> To: "Kevin Mark" <kevin.m...@verizon.net> >> Cc: "James Simmons" <nices...@gmail.com>, "iaep" <i...@lists.sugarlabs.org>, >> "Sugar-dev Devel" <sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org>, >> community-n...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 11:27 PM >> Hi Kevin, >> >> 2012/9/19 Kevin Mark <kevin.m...@verizon.net>: >> > Hearing from the kids who are making Sugar activities >> and more contributions, I'm really wanting to >> > know what teaching environment made this possible? >> >> Summing my case all the cases I listened about, we usually >> learn by our self. >> Thinking about why Sugar, well, we could make desktop >> applications, >> but a free and decent way to share a program is difficult to >> find and >> there's not always a community where we can share what we >> make. > > While I can't speak for Sugar Labs, this sound like a very good problems to > address. "Scratch" has a website to 'upload' its programs. I would really > love to see a way to help young sugar activity hacker have a place for them > to 'hack' on their games/activities. Maybe Activities.sugarlabs.org or some > website in .uy? And maybe a forum? (I'm not someone to do this sadly but > would think that the very capable people around the sugar community would > find this idea motivating) > >> Also I >> think Sugar needs activities, unlike desktops, where >> practically all >> is already made. >> >> Just Edward suggested us to tell our stories, but at the >> moment I'll >> not get into many details and only answer your questions. >> >> > Are there activity hacking classes? >> In Uruguay there is only one activity hacking teacher: >> Flavio Danesse. > > OH wow. I have recently started to 'hack' on JAMedia and JAMediaTube. So I > know his work. I wonder if making videos of his lecture would be something he > could do and the kids could watch? > >> He is an IT teacher, and every year he organizes a workshop >> where he >> teaches volunteer students to program in Python. The group >> "Python >> Joven", in English "Young Python".. > > If you and others can make 'clubs' in your area, that would be great, maybe > they can setup a web 'forum' for everyone to exchange ideas. > > >> >> Currently, his students contributing here are Agustin >> Zubiaga and >> Cristhofer Travieso, they told me about another student who >> develops >> applications for Android. >> >> > Is this kind of experimentation part of a turtleart >> class? >> For my part I can say "yes and no"... When I received my XO >> with Sugar >> I liked very much TurtleArt, but the teachers don't teach it >> very >> often, I had to look for documentation. > > Oh, that is sad, I'm surprised to read that. > > >> >> >Have kids 'goggled' about programming on their own time >> and wanted to know about programming? >> Now you are right, I learn practically all 'googling'. >> Flavio's >> students told me they also learn(ed) a big part of what they >> know >> searching and investigating by them self. >> I think it's better because we can learn what we are >> interested in, >> also if it's not related with Sugar. > > yes that is true. learning what you want (being an auto-didact) is powerful. > >> >> > Are there computer programming classes and teachers >> that have assignments that ask the kids to explore? >> >> Programming is not often a subject at the school. >> I know about optional workshops, like Flavio's. My parents >> are >> teachers, and about three-four years ago, when I was ten >> years old, I >> used to go to the highschool where my parents worked and I >> listened to >> a workshop about web design (basic HTML development) and >> graphic >> design (with GIMP). That workshop was not a way to get >> young >> programmers, but it removed me the fear of seeing a source >> code as >> something strange or made for be understood by non-human >> people. > > Yes, many people have a fear of this 'scary' stuff. It something everyone who > wants to learn about programming has to face. Turtleart and Scratch was > suppose to help. > >> >> Cheers. >> ~danielf >> >> P.S: Sorry, I don't speak English very well. > > Thanks you very much for your answers. I think you write English very well! > -Kevin aka kevix > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel