Frederick,

2A is not too much, Traco can provide 3.5A. How did you test 10385 - separately 
or when connected to 10393? 10385 itself will not work - there is enable signal 
coming from the 10393, so 10393 can shut itself down and then wake up with the 
clock/calendar chip.

Heat frame by itself is not enough, for development systems we use 1/2 of the 
normal camera body that looks like U-channel and slide the heat frame into it. 
for higher power we then put this half-body on a larger aluminum frame. The 
design is made so that air flow is not required, heat is transferred through 
the heat frame and should be handled externally. For most outdoor applications 
nothing more is needed, but if it is placed in vacuum camera boards will still 
work if heat is extracted through the metal body.

Andrey

---- On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 07:53:46 -0700 Frederick 
Gamache<frederick.gama...@gmail.com> wrote ---- 

Andrey,

The supply current drawn is nearly 2.0 Amps @ 3.3V, once the FPGA is loaded.
I have the 10389 interface board but no SSD mounted and no external SATA drive 
attached at the moment.


When I received the camera kit, I found that the unit was especially hot when 
touching it.
I don't have the camera enclosure, but only an aluminium frame on which the 
boards are mounted. I guess that the frame serves as a heat sink at same time?


For the power board failure, maybe I accidentally created a short when I 
plug/unplugged the wall adapter from the power board connector while the power 
adapter was plugged into the wall...


It is hard to tell what component failed on the power board because many 
components are mounted underneath the Traco DC-DC converter itself...


When I plug the 48 V source, no 3.3V appears at the output.


Frederick




On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Elphel Support 
<support-list@support.elphel.com> wrote:
Hello Frederick,

Do you know power consumption on the ports? Do you have 10389 interface board 
with the SSD? If you run camera from the 3.3V - can you measure the total 3.3V 
current? Do you have sufficient fan cooling or heat sink?

We never had 10385 failures before - Traco DC-DC converter seems to have all 
required protection - current, temperature so we had the system shut down when 
overloaded, but not failed. We would like to try to find out - what component 
actually failed - is it DC-DC or something else.

We do have a new power supply design (https://wiki.elphel.com/wiki/10386 - 
temporary images are for 10385B), but it is not built yet., we just released 
the PCB design a few days ago.

Andrey

---- On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 06:38:07 -0700 Frederick Gamache 
<frederick.gama...@gmail.com> wrote ---- 

Hi,

Its seems that my power board (10385-B power board - 48V) is out of service and 
I'm now powering the 3.3V  from an external power supply.
Do I really need the 10385-B power board to supply the SATA adapter board 
(10389-B) or should it works ok from my external 3.3V power source?


Frederick




On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Frederick Gamache 
<frederick.gama...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Andrey,

I owe at least this for your great support.
By the way, congratulations for your great products!


Best regards,
Frederick


On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Elphel Support 
<support-list@support.elphel.com> wrote:
Frederick,

Thank you for letting us know it did work. Sometimes the only indication of the 
problem being solved is the lack of the continuation in the thread.

Andrey

---- On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 07:12:13 -0700 Frederick Gamache 
<frederick.gama...@gmail.com> wrote ---- 

Hello,

Just to let you know guys that my circuit is now working since I mounted my 
DC-DC converter on my PCB.


Many thanks for your support!
Frederick


On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Elphel Support 
<support-list@support.elphel.com> wrote:
Frederick,

Yes - your last problem (system getting stuck after bitstream) is caused by the 
wrong power sequencing. But as 1) you have 10338 working and 2) your board is 
tested w/o 10393 it should be working together eventually.

Andrey

---- On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:48:42 -0700 Frederick 
Gamache<frederick.gama...@gmail.com> wrote ---- 

Hello Andrey,

Normally I have a dc-dc converter chip on my pcb which translate 3.3V to 2.8V. 
The 3.3V source is provided by the cable attached to the 10393.


I'll wait to receive my chip today and will install it tomorrow. I'll see if 
things will get better with it.


Currently I'm using an external power supply to source the 2.8V voltage so I 
guess the timing for the power sequence is not ok.


Frederick


On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:51 PM, Elphel Support 
<support-list@support.elphel.com> wrote:
Fred,

Just to clarify: 10393 can drive up to ~1.0A, but there will be voltage drop on 
the cable (Elphel cables have thick power traces). Connector is rated 0.4A/pin. 
The sensor power is controlled by the script (same one that loads bitstream), 
power status/control is available over the sysfs interface.

You may also put a buffer on all signals from the sensor, FPGA has flexible 
means to compensate pin delays if needed after the buffer insertion.

Andrey

---- On Fri, 09 Mar 2018 14:26:50 -0800 Elphel 
Support<support-list@support.elphel.com> wrote ---- 

Frederick, you need to power you board either directly from the 10393 3.3V on 
the cable, or (if you board has other components that need more power than 
10393 can provide) use external power switch driven by the cable power.

The problem is that the cable goes directly to the FPGA port that should be 
powered _before_ any non-zero voltage appears on the FPGA pins. This is a 
feature of the FPGA.

Andrey

---- On Fri, 09 Mar 2018 13:47:51 -0800 Frederick Gamache 
<frederick.gama...@gmail.com> wrote ---- 

I use TeraTerm.

I receive something else than 0xffff, but it seam to be the same value for any 
register...


Maybe I should check my power on my sensor chip.


FPGA bitstream stalls, it doesn't initialize if I power on my sensor PCB.


Fred


On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Oleg <support-list@support.elphel.com> 
wrote:
Hi,
 
Question: does the software needs to reach the  34VL02 EEPROM at any point?
Because I don't have one on my own sensor board...

 

It should work fine without eeprom.


Did it read chip id? or is it 0xffff? Do you use minicom or putty or other 
terminal program?


Regards,
Oleg

 

 


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