On 5/2/2020 10:59 AM, NFN Smith wrote:
Daniel wrote:
I am starting to wonder if I should delete both of the accounts I
have on SeaMonkey and start all over with one new account. I make
this comment based on selecting SeaMonkey to provide everything I
need...Mail - News - Feeds.
Be aware, Frog, that if you delete both your accounts on SeaMonkey,
you will be deleting all the e-mails you have sent and received on
those two accounts!
Least that's what happened to me! ;-(
I haven't been following this thread closely, but at this point, a
couple of thoughts...
Something that Frog might want to do is consider doing some playing in a
different user profile, rather than his current profile. That way,
there's more capacity to experiment, without risking damage to existing
setups or data.
One way to do that would be to create a new profile in Seamonkey, and
try setting up a new connection there. The idea is to figure out the
mechanics of what works or not, where you're not trying to work around
your existing data. Once you get that working, you can replicate those
settings in your normal profile.
Going a step further, consider the possibility of a temporary install of
Thunderbird -- its account setup wizard works pretty well (more
extensive than Seamonkey), and I've found that for most providers, all
it takes to get a workable connection is specifying your email address,
password and whether you want POP or IMAP, and the wizard is pretty good
about figuring out the rest of the settings. There are exceptions,
especially if a provider requires a different password for external
clients, as a way of doing a form of multi-factor authentication, but
absent that, the setup wizard should be able to do most of the work in
figuring things out. As with the suggestion above, once you have a
working connection, you can tweak your configs in Seamonkey to match.
However, it is possible that Verizon/AOL is doing something like
alternate password, and if so, the only source of information of how to
do your configs will be information that you get directly from them. My
own mail provider does this, and when I was setting up my phone to be
able to check my mail, I found that they required me to do a one-time
configuration of a separate password that's used in a mail client
(although somehow, they seem to have grandfathered my long-time
connection in Seamonkey, where I've never had to adjust that.)
Item of caution: if you're working with a POP connections on a test
setup, before you commit to downloading mail from a server, I do
encourage you to check the advanced settings, to adjust the mail
retention preferences. In Seamonkey, the default setting is to delete
mail from the server after it's downloaded, and if you're using a test
configuration, it's a good idea to set it to not delete from the server,
so that the test connection isn't grabbing mail that you want to go into
your normal mail.
Another consideration: if you're changing server names, it's generally
better to create a new account anyway, and not try to tinker with the
name in an existing account. I have done that in the past, even in
changing providers, but the result is that you get a lot of messiness at
folder and file level within your user profile, and it's worse when you
have multiple accounts. Some of the naming includes server names when
created, and if you're digging at that level, it can be really confusing
to be seeing old names that don't correspond with current usage. With
this in mind, having a new account in place is probably a good idea.
As for making sure that you don't lose any of your mail archives, I
recommend either (or both) of the following:
1) Before you do any additional tinkering, make sure you get a backup of
your existing profile. In Windows, you want to get the entire contents
of %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey . The AppData folder is normally hidden,
where you can't find it in the Windows explorer, but if you put that
path (with the environment variable) in the Explorer's address bar, it's
no problem to find. And depending on what backup tool you use, some
allow you to use that construct in what you're including in your
backups. For me, if I'm doing a data backup, besides all the normal
libraries in Windows, I include that designation, so that I get all my
Seamonkey data, and I do the same with my data for Firefox and
Thunderbird (%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Firefox and %APPDATA%\Thunderbird,
respectively -- Thunderbird's designation is slightly different, for
some reason).
Even if you don't do this for your regular backups, getting a copy of
your Seamonkey data *somewhere* is a really good idea, even if you
simply copy %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey to your Documents library.
2) If you anticipate the possibility of deleting your existing POP
account, copy all you mail data into Local Folders, where it can stay,
even if the account gets deleted. There's a number of useful things that
you can do with Local Folders, but in this context, it's a way of
getting all your mail copied into account that's not connected to a server.
Smith
Thanks for your help NFN Smith.
I believe your response has given me a number of possibilities and red
flags to watch out for as I try to solve my computer problems. Some of
the subjects included in your paper will require some study on my part,
as I have very limited technical skills in how to fix a computer. You
can be assured that I will be going through your thoughts and
suggestions over the next few days.
Let me see if I can tell you what I am thinking at this very moment - as
it relates to my next move to solve my computer needs.
---I very much want to use SeaMonkey for all of my computer needs. I
was introduced as a user of Netscape 2.?? back when I got my first
computer with Windows 95. I was with Netscape until AOL got involved,
and it was at this point I became a user of SeaMonkey. I again want you
to know that I am a user of SeaMonkey and I possess limited technical
skills involving SeaMonkey and Computers. Thus, I want to make
SeaMonkey work with my needs.
---My needs are for home use and not business needs (I retired 27 years
ago). I want to be able to receive and send email messages to my
friends and family...I want to be able to visit web pages where I
attempt to keep up-to-date on world events...I want to be able to
research subject of interest to me...I want to use the internet as a
source of help when I am stumped...my wife wants to use it for Facebook
connections with family and friends...and maybe other similar wants.
I believe all of these wants can be fulfilled by one account on
SeaMonkey...if my account and profile are configured properly. All of
my computer needs were being fulfilled by SeaMonkey until recently. I
believe a change of some sort occurred at Verizon that caused my
computer world to literally fall apart. Prior to this falling apart, my
computer needs were all being fulfilled by SeaMonkey and Verizon. Now I
get my AOL email messages using AOL software. I am now able to access
this support group via SeaMonkey and Thunderbird, but I can only see
message tests and respond to messages using Thunderbird. Lastly, I can
visit web pages using Foxfire and SeaMonkey. This thing of using three
different software packages is about to drive me crazy. Thus, I want to
have everything available on SeaMonkey as it was before this whole
travesty of events started.
Now, if I could only get SeaMonkey configured appropriately to make all
of this happen...yes, and I forgot to mention that all of my historical
messages were somehow lost at the beginning this unbelievable problem.
I hope somebody will have pity on me and give me a step by step process
to make SeaMonkey compatible with my needs. Walt548 gave me some
pointers in this thread that were very helpful in getting me started
down this road. I thought I would post some of my current settings that
are presently resident in SeaMonkey and maybe I would find out where
changes should be made.
Well, That that is my situation. I welcome any and all recommendations
as to what I must do to get SeaMonkey back on track.
Again, I very much appreciate your help; and I will be reading,
thinking, and learning from the contents included in your help message.
---I believe that I can (with help from knowledgeable/technical savvy
individuals on this newsgroup) make adjustments to my original
usern...@verizon.net account to make it compatible with my computer
needs. I believe that it is possible to make modifications to this
account that will once again give me access to all of my needs
Frog
P.S. I want everyone who has provided help to me in this situation to
know how much I appreciate your efforts. Your individual
contributions have meant more to me than you can ever know.
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