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Just email us at the following addresses, we will get back to you promptly: Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spam Complaints: [EMAIL PROTECTED] General Comments, Suggestions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Advertising Queries: [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 05:22 AM 01/27/2001 +0900, you wrote: >"Several of this cursed brood, getting hold of the branches behind, >leaped up into the tree, whence they began to discharge their >excrements on my head... > >"For as to those filthy YAHOOS ... I confess I never saw any >sensitive being so detestable on all accounts; and the more I came >near them the more hateful they grew." > >- Gulliver's Travels, Part IV: A Voyage to the Country of the >Houyhnhnm, Jonathan Swift. > >Well, dear friends, are we all as delighted, thrilled and excited as >apparently we're supposed to be by the sudden changes that have >befallen our mailing list like excrements from a tree? > >I know some aren't because they've complained to me off-list. I had >an annoying time trying to get to the MyGroups page via the obstacle >course set up by Yahoo to help and assist us. It told me to get a new >password and ID from Yahoo, and give them a whole bunch of >demographic information while I was at it, then it said someone else >had that ID, which, believe me, is nonsense. I tried other IDs. I got >really creative about it. I submitted curses, obscenities and >grievous insults in several languages, but all were "taken". Uh-huh. >Well, if it was true, there'd seem to be a lot of folks in there who >hold a similar opinion of Yahoo to that of Gulliver. I gave up. > >Ten minutes later I received a cheery email with an ID and password I >hadn't chosen, which after three tries finally admitted me to a >MyGroups page, and thence to the Biofuels page. > >I don't like it. It stinks. Super-safe prediction: it'll get worse. >It's already been getting worse. When Yahoo bought out eGroups was >when we started having problems with duplicated messages and with >messages not making it into the daily digests or onto the web board >(and thus not into the archives!!). I went to eGroups feedback page >and complained about duplicated messages. I got this reply: > >Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:25:09 +0000 >To: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: A message from Yahoo! eGroups >From: eGroups Feedback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: eGroups Feedback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Yahoo! eGroups sincerely appreciates your comments and suggestions. >While we cannot respond to them individually due to the large volume of >feedback we receive, please know that your feedback is forwarded to our >development team for review. Your opinions and insights are essential to >us as we continue to improve the Yahoo! eGroups service. > >If you have questions with using Yahoo! eGroups, please contact us by >using the online help form at: > > http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/egroups/cgi_feedback > >and we'll be happy to assist you. > >Thanks for using Yahoo! eGroups. > >Sincerely, > >The Yahoo! eGroups Team > > >The "online help form" was the one I'd used in the first place, of >course. I didn't bother to try the email address. > >Then we caught a virus, so I switched off the attachments, which made >the duplicates and non-arrivals worse, and then someone sent an >attachment anyway, which didn't get stopped. > >I was thinking of polling the membership to gather some opinions, >only I doubted the polling feature would work properly and it'd just >annoy everyone. > >Meanwhile people have said they'd transferred from daily digests to >individual emails because of probs they were having. > >What to do? Should we put up with this BS? I reckon we'll start >losing members soon if we stick around here. But where to go? >Topica's not much better - and they claim copyright ownership of all >postings! To do with as they please. No thanks. > >There are now 439 of us, 160 on no email/web only, 166 on individual >emails, 113 on daily digests. So wherever we go, we need all three of >those features, which lets out web boards, except for very expensive >ones that also have mailing list features. We also need a searchable >archives, and it'd be great if I could transfer the existing archives >to the new one. (I have it on my hard disk.) We don't really need the >Files and Links sections, that's all on the Journey to Forever >website anway, easy to post links to it at the list homepage. > >Any suggestions? Can we have some discussion? We're checking out a >few possibilities, but any ideas would be very welcome. > >TIA > >Keith Addison >Journey to Forever >Handmade Projects >Tokyo >http://journeytoforever.org/ > >Biofuel list owner > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
