Thanks for your letter. I'm still trying to find the right size design for
what I have in mind. Maybe I've been thinking to small as to still size. I
have a 1993 corvette, a 2000 Isuzu Rodeo, a 1972 chevy chevelle, a
mitsubishi mirage, a riding lawn mower and a push mower. I'm paying US
$29.00 every 10 days for the corvette gasoline(petrol?), the chevelle eats
gas likes crazy, the rodeo and the mitsubishi aren't to bad but still use
fuel. (we have a big family) I would like to make enough ethanol to run the
family fleet but have no idea how large to make my still. Any hints would be
greatly appreciated as I know you are getting into the still business. If
there is someone who has good plans for the size still I need please let me
know.
Thanks to all,
Ron Miller
----- Original Message -----
From: David Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow


> Hi Ron, Keith, Steve, Aleks, et al,
>                                                     At present I believe I
> have solved a number of problems associated with small fuel ethanol
stills,
> and was about to bring a range of small stills out at the start of the
year,
> after spending the previous 18 months working almost full time on them in
> between caring for my mother. I was hoping that these small stills would
> help pay for further developments to get some of the slightly bigger still
> experimental work finished and to a useable stage but have got somewhat
> diverted with these by-pass oil and fuel filters which I see as a
worthwhile
> venture in their own right, whose use I would most definitely like to see
> spread and become commonplace, and with trying to solve the distillation
and
> purification of glycerine, a by-product which widespread production and
> purification to a reasonably high level would certainly help with the
> manufacture and cost of biodiesel. Unfortunately the envolvement with the
> by-pass filters has meant I need to concentrate on that at this stage as
it
> is taking every penny I have to keep it going with the result that work on
> the stills has come to a grinding halt in the meantime. At present I could
> get back and shortly intend to get back on to  the production of stills
but
> really need about $20,000 to $30,000 to get them up and running. If there
is
> someone out there who is prepared to put up that sort of money in return
for
> a reasonable return on their money I am prepared to get back onto them but
> in the meantime I need to pursue the course I have adopted. At this stage
I
> have thrown a lot of money at both projects although far more at the still
> one and would eventually like to see a return on my money while at the
same
> time seeing these benefit people. Having spent the last 11 1/2 years of my
> life looking after my folks I dont want to be in the same boat when it
comes
> to my old age. The plans are therefore not for sale but I hope it will not
> be long before I get stills to market.
> Ron if you are getting involved with ethanol production I would advise you
> against involvement with a lot of the small alcohol stills out there for
the
> home distillation market as the majority of them were designed by people
who
> only have a limited knowledge of distillation with grossly inferior stills
> resulting. (not to say that good quality stills will not come out of this
> area eventually). Talk about Cowboys International. (probably not a good
> thing to say to someone living in the States as I am sure there are many
> hardworking, honest, and good cowboys there. In this part of the world the
> word cowboy applied in this sense means something totally different: like
> someone who is as rough as guts, takes no pride in his work, and in short
is
> a rip off artist). I suggest you download the two books Keith has on his
> site and thoroughly read them. You will learn a lot from them in terms of
> the basics. I would also search your local large city library with the
help
> of a good librarian who knows what she is doing. It is amazing what they
can
> turn up. They can also source books from other libraries. One good source
> worth looking in is your local university Engineering  School Dept.
> B.r.,  David
>
>
> > >Hi Hans, I'm From the US and would like info on who has the best still
> > >design. I plan on building my own using stainless steel. I also want to
> know
> > >who has the best performing distillers yeast. I am planning on making
> fuel
> > >for my automobile and lawn equipment. So far I have downloaded The Home
> > >Distillation Handbook " By Gert Strand. It's really good but lacks good
> > >plans for a still. If you have any good info please let me know. I need
> good
> > >details for construction purposes.
> > >Thanks,
> > >Ron Miller
> > >Mobile , Alabama
> >
> > Hello Ron
> >
> > The Home Distillation Handbook is really for drinkers more than
> > fuellers. You should do better with these (both full-text online,
> > free access):
> >
> > Mother Earth Alcohol Fuel
> >
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/meToC.html
> >
> > The Manual for the Home and Farm Production of Alcohol Fuel
> >
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_manual/manual_ToC.html
> >
> > There's currently a shortage of a good fuel alcohol still, sorry to
> > say. The stills on offer are mostly for drink production and are too
> > small. But we're working on it and should have some results soon.
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Keith Addison
> > Journey to Forever
> > Handmade Projects
> > Tokyo
> > http://journeytoforever.org/
> >
> >
> >
> >
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