...$16 over and above the market price... or higher....depends on which
study you use. There are plenty of them and they vary, depending on
methodology and contingent valuation placed on the "services" the
environment provides. Where is the $16 number from?

Ed B.
www.biofuels.ca



----- Original Message -----
From: "Tee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Oil subsidies, (was Ethanol/Big Time Loser)


> The real price with subsidies and tax write offs is around $16/gal.
>
> Tee
>
> At 12:28 PM 8/11/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hanns: you presented a great reminder for me that we really need to focus
on
> >getting the point across to consumers that we do not pay the real price
of
> >oil...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
> >You said:
> >
> >  So the industry is subsidised. What would we rather do? Spend the tax
> > > > > dollar
> > > > > > on something that is good for the rural GDP and good for the
planet,
> > > or
> > > > > make
> > > > > > OPEC wealthier, spew more CO2 into the atmosphere and have our
> > > economies
> > > > > run
> > > > > > down a path of ever increasing environmental cost and
diminishing
> > > > > resources.
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > > > > >
> >And here is one link I just found on the cost of subsidies in the USA,
for
> >fossil oil.
> >
> >http://www.icta.org/projects/trans/rlprexsm.htm
> >
> >
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