Ok, until I get through to them, here is a link for the latest news on
their oils division:

http://www.admworld.com/news/articles/12_16_02_specialty.htm

James Slayden

On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Keith Addison wrote:

> Hi James
> 
> >Hi Keith,
> >
> >There was an interesting quip in your post that I found interesting and
> >had a question on.
> >
> >On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Keith Addison wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > There's probably room for all of those and more, and they'd do better
> > > than an imposed jatropha plantation in the local niches where they're
> > > best adapted and people know how to deal with them. There's also the
> > > question of multi-use, I doubt New Delhi's thought of that, but it's
> > > most important. As we see, for instance, with large-scale ethanol
> > > plants using grain, which regard the grain oil as a waste product and
> > > throw it away.
> >
> >Huh?  Ethanol production using grain throws away oil? I have never heard
> >of this.  Please explain or provide links.
> 
> Weren't we discussing it in the thread about aflatoxin attacking the
> US corn crop?
> 
> Anyway, have you ever heard of them using the oil? I hadn't, and I'd
> been wondering about it... Here it is:
> 
> >> >1 Bushel of corn = 3.6 gallons of fuel oil.
> >> >
> >> >A typical bushel of corn weighs 56 pounds. 1 bushel provides 2.5
> >> >gallons of ethanol fuel, 14.4 pounds of feed, 1.6 pounds of corn oil.
> >> >
> >> >(Of course it needn't take 3.6 gallons of fuel oil to produce 1
> >> >bushel of corn, nor any at all, but it does.)
> >> >
> >> >Funny, with all this crap put about by David Pimentel on the alleged
> >> >energy inefficiency of ethanol from corn (NOT), I've never seen the
> >> >corn oil brought into the picture. Different lobbies I suppose, ne'er
> >> >the twain shall meet.
> >
> >Also this:
> >
> >>Now there's some discussion with a chemical engineer in Brazil
> >>about it. He's working with a factory making ethanol from corn and
> >>producing 30 thousand liters per month of non-refined corn oil,
> >>stored or used as fertilizer in the sugar-cane crop, of all things.
> >>So it seems the corn oil is indeed regarded as a waste product from
> >>ethanol production. They haven't even thought of using it for
> >>process heat. If they did, and made biodiesel from the excess
> >>(looks like there'd be an excess), that would rather change the
> >>energy efficiency of the corn distillation and the economics of
> >>both operations.
> >
> >I think we'll be hearing more about this soon.
> 
> We haven't yet, but we will.
> 
> I still don't know what people like ADM do. What happens to the corn oil?
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> > > Thanks again.
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > >
> > > Keith
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >James Slayden
> 
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