Hi apparently there is a thread in the biovuel group about the prisners we have in cuba (Gitmo) I thought you might enjoy pretty heavy stuff for a bunch of grease monkeys.
On Tuesday, Feb 10, 2004, at 12:29 US/Eastern, John Hayes wrote: > Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: > >> And just so we don't start getting puffed up here in the states (about german concentration camps) ed. >> we >> need to remember that we had concentration camps for the Japanese here >> and we considered them completely legal. Pick your enemy, persecute >> them and lock them up. Sad commentary on we humans. > > Umm. No. We did it, but it wwas *NOT* considered legal. In Ex Parte > Endo, Mitsuye Endo first complied with the internment order, then filed > a writ of habeas corpus against this illegal detainment. The U.S. > Supreme Court ruled in favor of Endo on Dec. 18th, 1994 and ordered > Endo’s release; shortly thereafter, the U.S. government ended Japanese > American interment. > > Specifically, in the majority opinion Justice Douglas wrote "A citizen > who is concededly loyal presents no problem of espionage or sabotage. > Loyalty is a matter of the heart and mind, not of race, creed, or > color. > He who is loyal is by definition not a spy or a saboteur. When the > power > to detain is derived from the power to protect the war effort against > espionage and sabotage, detention which has no relationship to that > objective is unauthorized." > > Moreover, in a concuring opinion Justice Murphy added: "I join in the > opinion of the Court, but I am of the view that detention in Relocation > Centers of persons of Japanese ancestry regardless of loyalty is not > only unauthorized by Congress or the Executive but is another example > of > the unconstitutional resort to racism inherent in the entire evacuation > program. As stated more fully in my dissenting opinion in Korematsu v. > United States, ante, p. 233, racial discrimination of this nature bears > no reasonable relation to military necessity and is utterly foreign to > the ideals and traditions of the American people." > > Thus, while we may have done it, it most decidedly was *NOT* legal. > > Cheers. > > John > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > First they came for the hackers. But I never did anything illegal with my computer, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for the pornographers. But I thought there was too much smut on the Internet anyway, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for the anonymous remailers. But a lot of nasty stuff gets sent from anon.penet.fi, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for the encryption users. But I could never figure out how to work PGP anyway, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for me. And by that time there was no one left to speak up. Alara Rogers, Aleph Press [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
