Hello Steven >Thanks Keith, I looked for the MSDS sheet but couldn't find it >except to order a copy off the Gold Eagle website.
Sorry about that - archived message, the links won't stay fresh. Unlike, say, Journey to Forever, where the links... um, don't stay very fresh either. (Like the paint on the Eiffel Tower.) We do try though. > One more question about the Methanol. In the recovery process >explained on the Journey to Forever website (condensing the methanol >out of the glycerin) approximately how much methanol can be >recovered? I think about 70% of the excess methanol ends up in the glycerin by-product "cocktail" - ie, glycerin, FFA-soap, excess methanol and catalyst. It depends on how much methanol you used in the first place and what sort of oil you used - more about that here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_meth.html How much methanol? It also presumes you didn't lose any to evaporation, or not much (closed processors and mixers). But I would like to find some more and better information about that 70%, it's kind of rough. Anyone know? All that said, you should be able to get most or nearly all of it back again. We get 3 litres-plus out of 15 litres of by-product. That's here. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor5.html#methcondens Simple 5-gallon processor We don't do this very often. One factor is that it takes a lot of energy, not sure that it's worth it. I guess we could calculate that, but it wouldn't be very helpful, electricity charges vary so widely. It wouldn't help us anyway because we have other reasons for not reclaiming the methanol. We use the raw by-product as-is for heating (pre-heating the WVO, heating water, and, next, for space-heating), and it works better with the methanol still in there. Maybe that's expensive or wasteful, in a way, but I don't really think so, it cuts our energy use right down, and biodiesel production remains an economical operation for us even without methanol recovery and (for us) its high energy costs. Everyone's situation is different, what's cheap and convenient for some might not be for others. Even where it's not cheap, electricity isn't the only way of doing this. So it's something to start with, if needed. By the way, I'll be making another condensor using the coil of 1/4" pipe pictured, it might have some advantages. There are other ways of reclaiming methanol, at the end of the process, for one, from both the by-product and the biodiesel. If you don't intend to use the by-product as fuel and don't have markets or uses for the components of separated by-product, this might be the way to go. See the recent thread on "Vacuum Pump for Condenser", for instance, and Dale Scroggins's "Touchless processor": http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html#touchfree Best wishes Keith ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
