Hallo Myke, In this area some of the organic farmers use dilute biodegradeable soap. One fellow who farms using horses uses the same tanks that carry the *-cides chemicals but uses the dilute soap. He does this so he won't have to listen to the chemical farmers. He is tired of arguing with them.
A study released last year which was of ten years showed that organic farmers have the same or better yields without the *-cides and it costs them less to farm because they don't have to pay for the *-cides. In my own hayfield I haven't used chemicals of any sort for 25 years and have had no problems with insects whether they be alfalfa leaf hoppers or whatever. The spiders take care of them. The *-cides are poisons and the "chemicals" used by organic farmers are not. The *-cides pollute the environment and groundwater and the organic farmer chemicals do not. A world of difference. Happy Happy, Gustl Wednesday, 29 June, 2005, 05:56:28, you wrote: mh> Had a discusion this morning with a fellow gardener about the use mh> of chemicals in organic gardening. I said i don't use chemicals as mh> i garden using organic principles. mh> He said Organic farmers use loads of chemicals otherwise they mh> would never get a good crop and would lose most to slugs and mh> fungus infections. I know they use chemicals but not the synthetic mh> nastys that non organic farmers use. mh> Can enyone give me discription on chemicals organic farmers use mh> and why they are different to non organic farming pesticides and mh> fungcides? mh> Cheers myke. -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. ******** We can't change the winds but we can adjust our sails. ******** The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, "The Screwtape Letters" ******** Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straße liegen, daß sie gerade deshalb von der gewöhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. ******** Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin ******** The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/