Re: [Biofuel] Re: Environmentalism is dead. What's next?

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I think that the commercial interest behind the government keep trying to prevent people, consumers from getting together to compare notes, form consumer spending strategies, etc.  As they say, "in union is strength ".  I think that if major corporations could have their way, the Internet would not exist today, or even it did, it would exist for the sole purpose to enhance their marketing capabilities.  Sorry, big corporations, but you are too late, the cat is out of the bag now. I remember the time when Microsoft(TM) said that the Internet was a fad. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rousseau, Jean-Jacques: The Social Contract (1762) http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~wldciv/world_civ_reader/world_civ_reader_2/rousseau.html   "Man is born free; and everywhere he is in chains. One thinks himself the master of others, and still remains a greater slave than they."   Perhaps more importantly...   "But, as men cannot engender new forces, but only unite and direct existing ones, they have no other means of preserving themselves than the formation, by aggregation, of a sum of forces great enough to overcome the resistance. These they have to bring into play by means of a single motive power, and cause to act in concert. (2)"   Isn't it ironic that Franklin once said "We must all hang together or assuredly we will all hang separately" since it's our government who (IMO) would prefer to see us divided.   Times have changed, haven't they.   ...Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry, i forgot who originally wrote this in reply response to my earlier statement, but i have to echo k's comment.   what you refer to is the 'social contract', as many historians like to call it, which formed the basis of feudalism.  serfs were bound to their lords, as you say.  they had to provide the rents (or skilled labor if they were a blacksmith or mason, etc.) which supported their lords' lifestyle and privileges.  in exchange, they essentially were allowed to live.   but they were not--at least not usually--bound in chains.  they could leave if they were so resolved.  not in broad daylight, of course, and as i said there were many factors which complicated matters.  but there was nothing like today's institutionalized controls on a person's movements.   -chris   >Before the Black Death serfs were bound to their lords, not allowed to  >leave, move house or marry with his permission. Serfdom was just another  >name for slavery. Chris.    Only before the Black Death? _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/

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