Hakan,
Rush Limbaugh represents the views of a substantial number of
Americans,
enough that we have the president and legislator we have today. Another
broadcast celebrity here in America is Paul Harvey and some recent
remarks
by him advocating slavery, genocide and the use of nuclear and
biological
weapons on his program have pretty much flown under the radar. Visit
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ericzorn/weblog/archives/2005/06/paul_harvey_ah.html
to read his remarks. Harvey makes his living as a salesman and good
salesmen do not say things that could adversely impact sales. Harvey
has
been selling for over 30 years that I'm aware of, so he is a good
salesmen.
He was correct in believing that enough Americans wouldn't be
outraged to
substantially affect sales. He may have back-peddled, but I don't
listen to
his programs on a regular basis, haven't done so for a long time.
Luck of
the draw that I heard that program that I did. There are good people in
America, I have to hope they will prevail and the rest of the world
allows
them enough time to do so.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid
:
: Ryan,
:
: At 05:23 PM 7/9/2005, you wrote:
: <snip>
:
: >What is the probability that
: >they would love and be grateful to the Americans? Why are the
Americans
: >surprised, when the Iraqis do not love them? Is it not understandable
that
: >some of the Iraqis want to kill Americans, how would you react in
their
: >situation?
:
: I posted that, but you only repeated a part of it. The introduction to
this
: questions was and here is what I wrote,
:
: "I always think about some obvious realities, when Americans come up
: with this dreams about the future. Iraq is a country with a population
that
: to 80% consist of old people, widows and Fatherless children under 15
years
: of age. The Americans have directly or indirectly been involved in
making
: the women widows and the children fatherless. What is the
probability that
: they would love and be grateful to the Americans? Why are the
Americans
: surprised, when the Iraqis do not love them? Is it not
understandable that
: some of the Iraqis want to kill Americans, how would you react in
their
: situation?"
:
:
:
: >I have brought this up to several poeple, they all just look
confused,
: >like they can't handle the possibility that we are the bad guys.
I use
: >this example:
: >If France decided that George W. Bush was a threat to them and
said, well
: >lets make a preemptive strike, then they came here and said to us,
"we
are
: >liberating you from this oppressive government."
: >You can bet on the majority of the American population picking up
some
: >guns and fighting the intruders. The news would say it was our
only hope
: >for survival. And the NRA (National Rifle Association) would have a
field day.
: >Most people still cannot grasp the concept.
: >
: >Here is the link to that "respected" talk show host. This is the
entire
: >transcript, all of what he said.
: >
:
>http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_070705/content/rush_is_right.gu
est.html
: >
:
: I do not normally read or listen to him, because for me as a
foreigner he
: is neither famous or a normal diet, but did it now and have the
following
: questions.
:
: Do many Americans listen to this?
: Are you not afraid when you hear his views?
: You know that I sometimes think that Americans are a bit naive, but
I will
: not go so far as that they belive this "whacko", or do they?
:
: I did a calculation once, based on Iraqi family sizes with probable
number
: of relatives and close friends, and draw the conclusion. That it was
almost
: impossible, or at least very rare, that any Iraqi did not knew a
person
: well, that had been killed by the Americans.
:
: With this background, how likely is it that US would be welcomed
and loved
: as liberators?
: Is not the thought or expectation of that Iraqis would love the
Americans
a
: bit naive?
: Based on civil wars and other occupations, wouldn't it take 80 to 100
years
: before Iraq can get over this with the Americans?
: Would it not be the responsibility of any Iraqi or American, that
love his
: family, his friends and his country, to fight an occupier?
: If you answer no to the above question, does it not make your country,
: including US, very easy to occupy and subdue?
:
: Hakan
:
:
:
: >This will give you an idea of why we are so "accepting of our
governments
: >lies, Hakan.
: >
: >Don't get me wrong, he's very fun to listen to, but eventually I
have to
: >turn it off and form my own opinion.
: >If you surf the site, you will notice a veeery conservative bias.
Again,
: >no problem with this, I just don't agree. Without left we can
have no
: >right. The problem is when they get out of balance, yin and yang.
: >
: >Happy Day to all
: >Ryan
: >
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