Hello all, according to the position of Daimler-Chrysler concerning the use of biodiesel in MB cars, the most recent information I have is similar to the one Lars Andersson has. But, it is merely a question of material compability. From the experiences from previous MB models I can vouch for that the problems are very small, if any at all ,with B100. Jan Warnqvist AGERATEC AB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] + 46 554 201 89 +46 70 499 38 45 ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Chapin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] mercedes/dodge sprinter vans? > Lars Andersson wrote: > > >We have a Mercedes Sprinter 316 CDI as a job van. I checked with the Swedish distributor about using biodiesel as fuel and they answered something undecided and then that maximum 5% was okey.... but they did not want any biodiesel at all in the fuel tank because it was possible to get 4% once and maybe 6% the next time !! I got an bit annoyed and checked with the German manufacturers who answered that because of materials used in the fuel system they did not allow any biodiesel at all with warranties unbroken...... Boring answer !! It is from late 2003 and company owned so i will not make any experiments with it.. > > > >It pulls a 1800 kg trailer like a dream at about 20-21 mpg..... > > > >Lars A > > > >From: "S. Chapin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > >>Does anyone out there have have a (diesel) biofueled "Sprinter" aka 316 > >>I think? We are considering one, a CDI 5cyl turbo mercedes, for general > >>hauling. My feeling is that there will be no problems with even b100 > >>(mild climate) but just to see thought of casting about on the list. > >>Other than the ford and dodge diesel trucks (maybe 22hwy max) it's all I > >>can find (in the US) that gets even close (pathetic really) to > >>reasonable mileage (18-30) for the capacity. > >> Also, a hemp bill before the congress, I've forgotten the #, needs > >>support. A viable source of oil I understand, amoung other uses > >>(recreational not amoung them). > >> Also, dust off that old copy of Farenheit/9-11 and watch it again. I > >>find dragging oneself back through the timeline tends to clear the > >>cobwebs of CNN "breaking news" stories. > >>Then a little from Iran-Contra and some Watergate hearing footage.... > >>and if the blood hasnt risen to your rosey cheeks try some footage of > >>Wallace, or Jesse Helms. > >>"Fool me once.... " > >> I looked into the Santa Cruz GM food ban and it looks like a > >>response to GM efforts to circumvent state by state restrictions on GM > >>"experimental" plantings. Stealth Monsanto. > >>Cheers, > >>S. Chapin > >>Corralitos Creek Gardens > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Biofuel mailing list > >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >> > >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >> > >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Biofuel mailing list > >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > > > Many Thanks Lars. > I have a feeling that manufacturers, dealers and insurers are finding > it possible to write off warranties because of BD use. I can imagine > that in cold climates, with a thickened fuel it would put some strain on > difertent elements, starters, glow plugs, CDI system... but okay maybe > b50 or even b10. And perhaps there is some reluctance because of the > inconsistent quality of home brewed BD. The manual transmission trucks > in the US have a lower tow capacity than the auto trans simply because > they dont want to cover clutch work on warranty because the driver may > not know how to drive a manual trans without burning it up. So in the > end it's a paperwork rule and, I would think, rarely an issue. What gets > me is that BD is a better lubricant, hence lower wear, and cleaner hence > less warranty claims, happier clients etc. but maybe, as with so many > issues... the reality doesnt make much of an impression. > I am glad to hear 20-21 with 1800 kg load. I think the lowest mpg > advertised by Dodge is > about 16 max load city driving for the 3500 van (dual rear wheels ). > Thanks > S.Chapin > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
