In nz, Australia and England, we make such fantastic spreads like marmite, and vegemite from the stuff left over from beer brewing, You yanks don't see to like it too much tho...
http://www.marmite.com/ Cheers, Bede -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:43 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lignin crop redidue breakdown > My question is since composting does a good job of breaking down lignin, would it be possible to use composting as part of the ethanol creation process? >I can imagine that the micro organisms "eat" also the sugars, leaving nothing for you to ferment to sugar. Pieter A related question: Mother Earth News had an article about a Missouri farmer who uses earthworms to turn distiller's grains into organic fertilizer. Could worms also break down lignin residue before distillation? If this is a dumb question, I apologize. I have made ethanol, but I am not a chemist. This farmer also has made a low energy vacuum distillation system that reduces the cost of ethanol to 38 cents a gallon. He will share his info with anyone. (See below) Read about his work at http://www.motherearthnews.com/library/1980_November_Dece mber/A_Self_Sufficient_Energy__Livestock_System_ Some quotes from the article: "But McCutcheon's concept of integrated farming for self-sufficiency involves more than simply producing fuels. In order to manufacture ethanol at a reasonable cost, one must take full advantage of the value of the process's by-product . . . the leftover distiller's grains. Normally, such protein-rich remains (which usually total about one-third of the raw materials' original weight) can be sold outright as a livestock feed supplement or used directly on the farm for the same purpose. Charles, however, employs the residue to produce a sizable "crop" of earthworms! " "The McCutcheon "brainchild" is a fiberglass-fabricated, 500-gallon-capacity still that operates under 26 inches of vacuum . . . a factor which allows it to work at a temperature of only 130 0F, as compared with the approximately 1750F that a distillery exposed to atmospheric pressure would have to achieve. " To further improve the efficiency of his operation, Mr. McCutcheon uses a hardy imported yeast in his mash, which he claims can withstand as much as a 13% alcohol content, compared with the 8-10% that "normal" yeast can handle. The additional few percentage points of tolerance, of course, allow the tiny organisms to produce more distillable ethanol per batch of "beer". EDITOR'S NOTE: Charlie McCutcheon can provide further information concerning any of his various "miracle" products to anyone who writes hire at McCutcheon's Midwest Miracle Marts, Dept. TMEN, Highway 5 at Lucky Street, Payette, Missouri 65248 (please include a self-addressed, stamped envelope). _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
