Hello Taryn, Pannirselvam Did you read this?
http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/200 5-August/003230.html Or: http://snipurl.com/hb3u [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers "Who Would Jesus Assassinate? Hugo Chavez and the Men Who Claim to Speak for Jesus" I was wanting to say something about liberation theology but I posted that instead. By the way, here's Doug's post, "Religion, Politics Biofuels, and Thanks!": http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/200 5-August/003279.html Or: http://snipurl.com/hb3w I don't want to interpret, but I think what Doug's talking about is mainly how religion-of-a-sort is driving politics and the other issues in the US and in US foreign policy, along with the nonsense about the US and Islam, the odious "Clash of Civilisations" type of thinking and so on, and maybe the strange marriage of "Christian Zionists" in the US and colonial Zionism in Israel and its effects on politics, foreign policy, Middle East oil and all the fish. On the other hand, there's India and Pakistan, who should surely be brothers rather than nuclear enemies... They don't seem to refer to each other as Indians and Pakistanis as often as Hindus and Muslims. Isn't it time to seek to bury the hatchet somewhere else than in each other's heads? Best wishes Keith >Hello Pannirselvam, > >Forgive me for taking exception to some things you said to Doug. I've >assumed (perhaps wrongly) that you're looking at the works of the >Catholic church in Brazil, from a Hindu perspective. It has been years >since I last studied the Bhagavada Gita, but I continue to practice >hatha yoga for the mental and physical benefits. I greatly admire >Hinduism as a path for spiritual growth but have always been troubled >by several Hindu precepts (assumptions?). > >Here in the west, Darwin's theories, "nature red in tooth and claw", >were used as justification for "Social Darwinism", which claimed that >the poor were inferior, evolutionary failures, and not deserving of >opportunity, education, or fair treatment. I see reincarnation, and >the caste system, as serving a similar function in Hinduism; the lower >castes are seen as "failed souls", not enlightened enough to deserve a >place in society. I have read that many schools of Hindu thought are >rejecting the caste system, as is the government of India, but that the >bigotry and sexism continue. > >So in that sense, religion, for a native of India, seems to be a tool >of oppression, creating economic and social disparity without regard to >the 'worldly value' of individuals, hence a source of illusion. > >Regarding the Catholic church in Latin America; while doing much good >work, they have also consistently spread misinformation about the use >of condoms and other birth control methods. ><http://www.aegis.com/news/ads/2003/AD032597.html> This has accelerated >the spread of AIDS in Catholic countries, and caused many thousands of >unnecessary deaths. It's my understanding that there is now a schism >between the Vatican and many Brazilian clerics over this, with the >local priests and bishops denouncing the Vatican's anti-condom stance. ><http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/051005G.shtml> This is certainly a >welcome change, but the Vatican continues it's policies against AIDS >prevention education. It's not the first time the Vatican has taken a >stance obviously against Christ's teaching, often only to serve their >economic or political goals. > >A bright spot in all this has been the emergence of Catholic Liberation >Theology, which at least provides a counter force to the constant >capitalist propaganda imposed on all the Americas. > >American Evangelical Fundamentalist sects are also gaining power in >Latin America, and they too are a constant source of AIDS >misinformation. As they have no history of liberation theology, we can >be sure that their missions will be bound to NeoCon goals. > >I certainly agree with your suspicions about corporate and media power >being used to suppress democratic processes all over the world, but I >suspect that the church often falls on the wrong side of this battle, >they have usually supported the economic elite in class struggles, even >as their missionaries were striving to help the poor and dispossessed. > >I know you're 'on the ground' in Brazil, and you're seeing many >courageous, dedicated christians doing good works, against great odds. >I guess I'm trying to say that you're seeing those with 'true religion >with ethics and also true democratic politics' actually doing what >needs doing. Those who send them often have other goals. > >Taryn >ornae.com > > >On Aug 29, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Pannirselvam P.V wrote: > > > Dear Doug Swanson > > > > I appreciate your well thoughtful letter regarding our > > list.But I am not able to fully understand yet that religion > > develop illusion as I native of India , presently in Brazil . > > Here religion always do better thing , the school , the hospital , > > the project for the poor people . I believe the illusion are made > > by Big Blue Corporate company against true religion with ethics and > > also true democratic politics using money power making the > > illusions. > > Surely all are inter related and I agree with you that Biofuel > > bring the people together independent of politics and religions > > showing the truth and showing the green way and great future for > > global sustainability. > > > > sd > > Pannirselvam P.V. > > > > On 8/27/05, des <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> politics lately; as well as the diversity in the biofuels > >> subjects. (I _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
