I have to point out here, I've encountered just as many dishonest and greedy small businesspeople as I have dishonest and greedy large corporations. I rather work with a large group of ethical and dedicated people, perhaps organized into an employee-owned corporation, then I would with some of the "independent biofuel entrepreneurs" I've come across. A certain fraction of people in 'green business' just view it as an opportunity to rip trusting people off - that's the sad truth. As they say, measure twice, cut once, and trust your instincts.
Peter I. Solem --- Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Except before all that gets turned on the practice > and mindset will be > status quo which means that the whole industry will > be operating on > established methods and historical means and > techniques. But the end of > the petro cycle will entail a huge rise in cost for > all of that. > Trucking all the bio-oil in to the central refinery > will be terribly > expensive which also means the new biofuels also > will be exhorbitant and > will remain so. On the other hand small scale local > production will see > very little change from what it can be now if it is > done sustainably. > Small IS beautiful. > > Joe > > Zeke Yewdall wrote: > > >Well, assuming this is true... > > > >If they are turing all of the biodiesel feedstock > into fuel, who cares > >if there is no biodiesel any more -- isn't the goal > of biodiesel to > >turn bio-feedstocks into fuel. Which sounds like > what they would be > >doing, just via a different method. > > > >On 4/5/06, bob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>I heard a presentation from a researcher at NREL > (Pachecko?)at a biomass > >>conference in Little Rock, Arkansas last week. He > basically predicted > >>the death of big biodiesel only a few years beyond > peak oil. The story > >>goes like this: when global production of crude > oil starts to fall > >>significantly, and crude supplies in the us start > to fall, the fossil > >>refineries will turn to alternative feedstocks to > keep their big > >>catalytic crackers busy. Easier than coal liquids > will be the > >>supplementation with lipids. Big oil will buy up > every drop of > >>available fat and oil, blend it with crude oil and > run it through the > >>refineries. Because large scale catalytic > cracking is cheaper than FAME > >>synthesis, they can undercut the price, and drive > biodiesel out of the > >>market. > >> > >>-- > >>Bob Allen > >>http://ozarker.org/bob > >> > >>"Science is what we have learned about how to keep > >>from fooling ourselves" Richard Feynman > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Biofuel mailing list > >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >> > >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >> > >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list > archives (50,000 messages): > >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Biofuel mailing list > >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list > archives (50,000 messages): > >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list > archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
