Keith, Most (or enough) Americans are asleep or indifferent. If we had a real mainstream media here, that didn't screen out news unfavorable to the administration, especially the bogus wars, things would never deteriorated to the low level we have now. I hardly ever watch TV news and get my info off the web. I continuously write my Congress people, 2 Demo senators and a Repug rep, and they just ignore my letters or at best I get polite form letters back. The Repug rep is such a strong, mindless, Bush backer, it makes me sick. The Demos are equally bad in that they say there's a better way than impeaching Bush/Cheney. I wish I knew what that was. Maybe a firing squad? I feel BushCo is out of control but the impotent Congress is afraid, for whatever reason, to take the two idiots on. Yeah, there are a couple exceptions, like Sen. Feingold and the two Demos that've openly backed him. Kucinich (Rep, OH, D) has had Bush's number way ahead of his colleagues. The polls show Bush and Cheney are way down in public opinion. Maybe the two are desperate to do more of their nasty deeds before common sense again prevails here. There's no telling what two thugs like them will do to stay in power. Another 9/11? I would not count that out as they have no morals whatsoever.
So we have here a number of problems: A too trusting people who have been divided by wedge issues Disinformation on the TV news. 9/11 was our Night of Broken Glass & new Pearl Harbor Corporate financed candidates Hackable voting machines that can swing an election through built-in "back doors" in the tabulating PCs. Naturally biased to the Repugs A weak, corrupt, and divided Congress An administration that is totally corrupt, ruthless, and corporate controlled. An insanely bloated military budget that is way beyond that necessary to "protect" us. Pray for World Peace, D. Mindock ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: [IP] Is the US preparing to bomb Iran?] > I've been posting stuff on this here for months, so have a few > others, very few people have taken any notice. > > It is utterly unbelievable that Americans, only now so belatedly > waking up with growing fury at how they were lied to and manipulated > on the road to the Iraq debacle are actually swallowing the exact > same set of lies and manipulations in order to do the same or worse > in Iran. > > What the hell is the matter with you people??? What are you going to > do about it? Vote??? Good God, WAKE UP!!! > > Stop it happening! > > Now! > > Damn, thank heavens for Seymour Hersh. > > "Hopefully" you say Mike: > >>Let's all pray that reason and sanity prevail once again. >> >>Best wishes for world peace, > > With all due respect it'll take a little more than hopes prayers and > wishes. Do it! Put a stop to your mad dogs. > > Keith > > >>Hakan, >> >>Agreed. The sh-t would hit the fan. Hopefully enough reason and sanity >>will >>eventually prevail like it did during the cold war (we survived it >>somehow). Of >>course it may have been MAD (a form of insanity called Mutually Assured >>Destruction, the idea that no one wins, except by not fighting or starting >>a >>nuclear war), that actually saved us during the cold war. >> >>What I find to be so ludicrous (silly, ridiculous) is that if IRAN >>really wanted >>to Nuke Israel or the USA they would not need a real nuclear weapon, and >>they >>would have done it already with a dirty nuclear weapon since they already >>have >>nuclear power plants with uranium. >> >>I suspect they have not done so, even if they wanted to, because >>they know if they >>did the US or Israel would level Iran in retaliation, probably with nukes. >> >>The really scary part, I fear, is that even if the US does back >>down, Israel will >>still not allow Iran to make nuclear bombs and therefore will not >>back down. So, >>anyway you look at it, if Iran does not back off on the nuclear >>issue we will all >>be in deep sh-t. >> >>What also concerns me is that if the US attacks Iran, North Korea >>will probably >>freak out and go nuts since they would believe they were next. I have >>heard no >>mention of this yet in the news. >> >>Let's all pray that reason and sanity prevail once again. >> >>Best wishes for world peace, >> >>Mike McGinness >> >>Hakan Falk wrote: >> >> > Mike, >> > >> > As a foreigner and hearing Bush preparing for attacks on Iran, I >> > sometimes have a very short moment of wishing him doing it, because >> > it would be so stupid and probably finish him. Then I think about my >> > American friends with my positive experiences from US and wish >> > strongly that he would be stopped. If US attack Iran, then we would >> > rapidly understand what the expression "the sh-t hits the fan" means. >> > The global consequences for US would be enormously negative. >> > >> > Hakan >> > >> > At 06:16 09/04/2006, you wrote: >> > >Reading the article discussed below is just plain scary as hell. If >> > >it's true we >> > >need to contact our congresspersons and senators and tell them >>how we feel so >> > >that they can put a stop to this madness now before it is too late. >> > >Since there >> > >is an election coming up in November, something tells me if >>they hear from >> > >enough of us now they will take decisive action. >> > > >> > >Mike McGinness >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >Marty Phee wrote: >> > > >> > > > -------- Original Message -------- >> > > > Subject: [IP] Is the US preparing to bomb Iran? >> > > > Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:43:42 -0400 >> > > > From: David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > To: ip@v2.listbox.com >> > > > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > >> > > > Begin forwarded message: >> > > > >> > > > From: Tim Finin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > Date: April 8, 2006 3:40:18 PM EDT >> > > > To: Dave Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > Subject: Is the US preparing to bomb Iran? >> > > > >> > > > Seymour Hersh has a 6000 work article in next week's New >> > > > Yorker on possible plans for a pre-emptive bombing strike >> > > > against Iran including the use of nuclear weapons. While >> > > > Hersh has not always been right in his predications, he has a >> > > > pretty good track record on the whole. It's a good article >> > > > and also a worrisome one. No matter what you believe of the >> > > > wisdom of attacking Iran, if we do there are bound to be many >> > > > more difficulties ahead before things get better. >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > >> > > > THE IRAN PLANS >> > > > Would President Bush go to war to stop Tehran from getting the >> > > > bomb? >> > > > Seymour M. Hersh, New yorker issue of 2006-04-17, posted 2006-04-10 >> > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060417fa_fact >> > > > >> > > > The Bush Administration, while publicly advocating diplomacy >> > > > in order to stop Iran from pursuing a nuclear weapon, has >> > > > increased clandestine activities inside Iran and intensified >> > > > planning for a possible major air attack. Current and former >> > > > American military and intelligence officials said that Air >> > > > Force planning groups are drawing up lists of targets, and >> > > > teams of American combat troops have been ordered into Iran, >> > > > under cover, to collect targeting data and to establish >> > > > contact with anti-government ethnic-minority groups. The >> > > > officials say that President Bush is determined to deny the >> > > > Iranian regime the opportunity to begin a pilot program, >> > > > planned for this spring, to enrich uranium. >> > > > ... >> > > > A government consultant with close ties to the civilian >> > > > leadership in the Pentagon said that Bush was "absolutely >> > > > convinced that Iran is going to get the bomb" if it is not >> > > > stopped. He said that the President believes that he must do >> > > > "what no Democrat or Republican, if elected in the future, >> > > > would have the courage to do," and "that saving Iran is going >> > > > to be his legacy." >> > > > >> > > > One former defense official, who still deals with sensitive >> > > > issues for the Bush Administration, told me that the military >> > > > planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing >> > > > campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and >> > > > lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government." He >> > > > added, "I was shocked when I heard it, and asked myself, 'What >> > > > are they smoking?'" >> > > > ... >> > > > http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060417fa_fact >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
