Hakan, Freedom means the freedom to borrow 2 billion a week to support a war we've already lost. Freedom means never having to say you're sorry. Freedom means completely trashing a country then getting distracted by a 2 bit tinhorn tyrant in another country and forgetting you promised to rebuild the first country. Feedom means the freedom to spy on people. 4 legs good, 2 legs bad, 4 legs good, 2 legs bad, 4 legs good, 2 legs bad
Now just keep saying that... I didn't know you were a foreigner. That's ok. We American know how to deal with foreigners, I'LL JUST TALK REAL LOUD Like to buy a savings bond? -M Hakan Falk wrote: >Mike, > >Now I finally got it and understand the meaning of freedom versus >liberty. Freedom as practiced in US at the moment, also means freedom >from responsibility and accountability. > >Liberty do carry some expectations on responsibility and >accountability, which are the parts that US lacks at the moment. > >Took some time to catch, but I guess that it is expected from >ignorant foreigners like me. > >Hakan > > >At 18:17 18/04/2006, you wrote: > > >>Redler, >> >>why do you hate freedom so much? >> >>Get with the program. >> >>Michael Redler wrote: >> >> >> >>>"The advance of liberty is the path to both a safer and better world." >>> >>>- George W. Bush, Speech to United Nations General Assembly (September >>>21, 2004) >>> >>>1.) 1% testing of US cattle for mad cow disease/"shares" risk with Japan >>>2.) World Health Organization ranks US 37 in health care quality >>>3.) Rumsfeld makes millions from sale of bird flu vaccine >>>4.) December, 2001: United States' withdrawal from the 1972 >>>Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty >>>5.) November, 2001: A 10-year-old program to help Russians prevent >>>theft of nuclear warheads and weapons-grade uranium and plutonium was >>>reduced by $20 million. >>>6.) "Clear Skies" weaken and delay health protections already required >>>under the law. >>>7.) EPA "C.H.E.E.R.S." CHEMICAL INDUSTRY TO STUDY EFFECTS OF KNOWN >>>TOXIC CHEMICALS ON CHILDREN >>> >>>FEMA, FDA, USDA, etc, etc, etc. >>> >>>So...looking back at the quote, what does this say about "the advance >>>of liberty"? >>> >>>Mike >>> >>>Clear skies ref: http://www.nrdc.org/air/pollution/qbushplan.asp >>>C.H.E.E.R.S. ref: http://www.organicconsumers.org/epa-alert.htm >>>WHO ref: http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html >>>Bird Flu ref: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0312-06.htm >>>ABM ref: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/12/13/rec.bush.abm/ >>>prevent theft of nuclear warheads ref: >>> >>> >>> >>http://www.ransac.org/Projects%20and%20Publications/News/Nuclear%20News/2001/11_13_01.html#1b >> >> >>>*/Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: >>> >>> *JAPANESE OFFICIALS RESIGN OVER U.S. MAD COW DEBACLE* >>> Despite new cases of Mad Cow disease surfacing in the U.S., Japan is >>> reopening its borders to American beef. As a result of the policy >>> decision half of the members of Japan's beef-safety government >>> advisory >>> panel have resigned. Morikazu Shinagawa, a researcher at the national >>> Institute of Animal Health and a resigning member of the panel, told >>> Kyodo News Service he "couldn't continue to work" on the panel >>> because >>> the conclusion to resume imports was preordained by the government. >>> Japan banned U.S. beef imports in 2003 due to weak beef safety >>> regulations in the U.S. While 100% of cows in Japan, aged 24 >>> months and >>> older, are tested for the Mad Cow disease, only 1% of the 35 million >>> cattle slaughtered annually in the U.S. are tested. Japan recently >>> caved >>> to pressure from the Bush Administration and lift the ban on U.S. >>> beef >>> imports while appointing new "experts" to its beef safety advisory >>> panel. http://www.organicconsumers.org/artman/publish/article_227.cfm >>> >>> >>> and...so such thing as organic: >>> *ORGANIC BYTES READERS VOTE TO LAUNCH BOYCOTT AGAINST HORIZON AND >>> AURORA* >>> In the last two issues of Organic Bytes we invited our readers to >>> vote >>> on the direction of OCA's Safeguard Organic Standards Campaign by >>> taking >>> part in an online poll. The poll asked, "Should the Organic Consumers >>> Association call for a boycott of organic brands that are lobbying to >>> weaken organic laws and taking advantage of loopholes in the organic >>> standards (example: producing so-called "organic" dairy products on >>> factory farms, where the animals are imported from conventional dairy >>> farms, and then kept in intensive confinement, with no access to >>> pasture)?" We'd like to thank everyone who took part in that poll. >>> The >>> results indicate a resounding 96% of participants believe the OCA >>> should >>> launch a boycott. In response, and in alliance with the Cornucopia >>> Institute , >>> the OCA sent out a national press release >>> last week >>> calling on consumers to boycott these brands. Two of the largest >>> organic >>> dairy companies in the nation, Horizon Organic (a subsidiary of Dean >>> Foods) and supplier to Wal-Mart and many health food stores; and >>> Aurora >>> Organic, a supplier of private brand name organic milk to Costco, >>> Safeway, Giant, Wild Oats and others, are purchasing the majority of >>> their milk from feedlot dairies where the cows have little or no >>> access >>> to pasture. 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