Hello. I have a problem with my new processor. I asked the person who was selling it if it was self priming and he responded yes, it could even suck water from 6meters. Ofcourse I didnt believe him, but I hotught that it probabbly could manage 40 cm. Well it cant. And ı have already mounted above the fluid level.
I have to use a vaccum pump to pull the wvo in to the pump :( Is there anotherh alternative? Can anytone help? THank you in advance Teoman > Rudtard Kipling is rolling is his grave but William Easterly probably > approves of pretty much everything you've said. > > Michael Redler wrote: > >> I just wanted to chime in here. >> >> Keith wrote: >> >> "It reached a stage here where the list would not have >> survived unless we'd formulated the rules, which were already there, >> we didn't just make them up." >> >> It's also too common to see a reactionary restriction of expression, >> screening all posts before distribution (for example). >> >> This forum proves that a loose framework is very effective >> at maintaining individual freedoms while allowing it's membership to >> participate in maintaining continuity. >> >> Kim: I read some of your posts and couldn't help notice the >> similarities between your views and the ideology driving the White >> Man's Burden. Maybe it's time to rethink the ideals to which we, in >> the US, have been indoctrinated. Maybe it's a good time to question >> the perceived credibility and legacy left behind by people like >> McCarthy and accept the fact that it's not acceptable to steer the >> culture, economy and government of another country simply because you >> feel you're "better". >> >> You wrote: "Our right to determine the direction of our life today is >> unparalleled in human history." >> >> So, Babylon, Ancient Greece, etc. don't count. The Magna Carta was >> "just a piece of paper" (if I can borrow an expression from our >> president). >> >> There have been and are, better examples of democracy in human history >> than the republic we Americans pretend to push on others in the >> process of building an empire. >> >> Do some research on our Constitution and it's origins. It will lead >> you in a few directions - one of which is toward the Iroquois nation. >> Ask an Iroquois about their "right to determine their life" - if you >> can find one. You talk about the reassignment of land for the greater >> good but conveniently under emphasize the eradication of those people >> in the process of fulfilling that illusion. >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> */Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: >> >> Hello Kim >> >> >Greetings, >> >I do believe that many people on this list don't read real well. >> >> I think you're relying on it. No doubt a new subject-title and >> dumping all the evidence helps. The ones who disagree with you read >> quite well though. The un-keyhole view is of Kim trying to backpedal >> her way up a pedestal, in defiance of the laws of gravity and >> pedals. >> >> >I did say I was in favor of colonizing the stars, not the >> colonizing >> >that happened in past history and is happening today by the >> >corporate world. >> >> Um, sorry, not so. In fact you were also criticised for the >> colonising the stars bit, and you ignored that too. But for a lot of >> forbearance you could have got the boot just for that, and much >> besides. You should read the list rules again. They're there for a >> reason. It reached a stage here where the list would not have >> survived unless we'd formulated the rules, which were already there, >> we didn't just make them up. They had to be put into a form that >> people could be referred to and told to read and comply with when >> they joined. If not no list any more long ago already. >> >> A major reason for it was to put a stop to this kind of vanishing >> act >> that denialists of all stripes like to pull with what they said >> yesterday. You're not a denialist? But you walk the walk. The rules >> are all about integrity. Please go and read them. >> http://snipurl.com/mx7r >> >> >I do find good in many bad situations. Do I wish that certain >> >changes had come about in a more humane manner, of course. Part of >> >getting over hatred is seeing that even though you hated a >> >situation, some personal good came from it. Hatred is bad for the >> >person who hates, not the person who is hated. >> >> Morally and spiritually, indeed so. Practically, well, what will you >> say, Kim? At least the victims were pure of heart when they got >> slaughtered so it was a Good Thing for them, they didn't get the >> chance to pollute their spirits with negative feelings like hatred >> afterwards? Only a pessimistic person who sees no hope for humanity >> and knows nothing about history could disagree, eh? Sure, you didn't >> say that, but it's not far from what you did say, which you're now >> trying to sweep under the corner of the carpet, as usual. That's >> right, I'm going to unsweep it a little, did you think I wouldn't? >> You think some strange things. What made you think I wouldn't check >> the snopes reference you posted even if you didn't? Denialists don't >> do metaphor either, they say "I didn't say that!" >> >> >By distancing >> >> Hm. >> >> >and looking for good, one can overcome hatred of even a whole race. >> >> Hating a whole race, my word. >> >> >To say that by finding good in a situation that you condoned the >> >original sin is nonsense. >> >> It might be. If you use the good that you look for to distract from >> the "original sin" it might not be such nonsense. If you set out in >> search of a "good" in order to use it for that purpose it'd be even >> less nonsense. And when you use the perceived good to disappear the >> original sin altogether it's not nonsense at all. >> >> Perceived good: >> >> >[Kim] For that matter, I do believe that Native women have more >> rights >> >now than they had when they were property of the men in their >> families. >> >> Isn't that pretty much what the US military says when they succeed >> in >> liberating a village only they had to kill most of the villagers and >> bomb all the buildings first, but hey, at least they're free, it's >> the only way to make omelettes, getting bombed is almost as good for >> you as getting colonised. >> >> >That would be like saying a black person who looking at the >> >situation in Africa and counting his blessings that his family is >> in >> >America, condoned the slavery that brought his family to America. >> >> I think a lot of Africans would object to that view, with reason. Do >> you think that's what the blacks in New Orleans who were on TV after >> Hurricane Katrina were thinking and it made them feel all warm and >> cosy inside, who needs a bus ticket? You had a different view of >> them >> at the time, and it's part and parcel of the current consignment. >> >> >Taking a balance view and learning to not hate for the past by >> >finding good in it should not be the antithesis to a sustainable >> >world. >> >> Indeed it's not, but that's not the same as using some perceived >> benefit that's far from clear to say the least to hey-presto an >> horrendous slaughter into a Good Thing for everybody including the >> victims, and just for a bonus the survivors' women are freer now >> too, >> your "balanced view". When challenged your argument was that at >> least >> you can see some hope for humanity, unlike me, LOL! Now the only >> option you're leaving to seeing it all your way, in the sanitised >> new >> clothes you've dressed it up in, is to be doomed to hatred as well >> as >> an historically challenged pessimist. >> >> I wonder how much you know about hatred? Me, well I don't hate >> anyone. It's not just armchair stuff, I've had my share of reasons >> for hatred. I can see them now, clear as the day they happened, >> scene >> after scene after scene, like a movie. It sort of doesn't leave you >> a >> lot of room for trying to fabricate pretences about it. How many >> times have you seen people being slaughtered? There's more than one >> way of doing it too, some of the no-blood-and-guts ways are even >> worse, and there are lots of other hateful things short of outright >> slaughter. I tried hatred once, I mentioned it the other day. I got >> the most powerful lesson I've ever had, in short order. Don't hate! >> As Gustl says, you can hate the hateful deed, but not the doer. It >> can be hard! >> >> >To build a sustainable world, we need to fight current evil yes, >> but >> >we also need to forgive and forget the past so we can live in >> peace, >> >not hundreds of years of fighting. >> >> Forgive and forget, fool me twice, right. You have to face up to the >> past and its lessons or you'll repeat them. You're just denying the >> past because it doesn't fit nice and comfortably with what you want >> to believe. That's your prerogative, but it's not your prerogative >> to >> try to weave it into the fabric of what goes on here. Somebody was >> talking about memes, and some of them are toxic. >> >> Forgetting isn't good for you. Forgiving has two sides to it, it >> requires reconciliation,which involves repentance and a mending of >> ways, as well as truth, and even then it might be a good idea to >> check under the corner of the carpet. >> >> Just turning your back on hundreds of years of fighting and running >> away from it thinking you can leave it all behind that way doesn't >> exactly cut it when you wipe out most of an entire people who happen >> to be occupying "your" new home and then focus on finding bigger and >> better ways of doing it all over the world, like now for instance. >> That was the objection to your scheme to colonise the stars, God >> help >> all the little green men with their peace pipes. But maybe the >> surviving little green women will be freer. >> >> So what's under the corner of the carpet? Hey-unpresto, the corpus >> delicti, or part thereof: >> >> > >Kim at Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: >> > > >> > >"Each time we have opened a new area we have grown in human >> rights for a >> > >short time. " >> > > >> > >Kim, >> > >I doubt if Native Americans, Indigenous peoples all over the >> world, and >> > >anyone who has had their land taken by invaders will agree with >> this >> > >statement. I applaud your desire to be an optimist rather than a >> > >pessimist, but >> > >optimism should be based on a willingness to look at all facts >> honestly. >> > >Best wishes, >> > >Marilyn >> > >> >Greetings, >> >I never said it was equal or that no one suffered, but hereditary >> wealth >> >lost it's hold a bit each time a new area opened. Looking back at >> Ancient >> >Greece and Rome, this happened right up to the opening of the >> >Americas. For that matter, I do believe that Native women have >> more rights >> >now than they had when they were property of the men in their >> families. It >> >depends on what you choose to look at and in how general of terms >> you are >> >speaking. First Americans did practise slavery. Our right to >> determine >> >the direction of our life today is unparalleled in human history. >> The fact >> >that not all people have this right, does not take away from the >> >achievement of this freedom. It just means that we need to work >> harder so >> >that all people can have this right. As to the view of aboriginal >> people, >> >I have also discovered that their view of the invaders depends on >> their >> >status within their people and their sex. Not all invaders were >> horrid, >> >some came to love. This is where the Metis come from. >> >Bright Blessigns, >> >Kim >> >> The comparison I made: >> >> >Sorry to say so, but that sounds horribly like this: >> > >> > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Morgan" wrote: >> > > > All I can add in our defense, is that much more good has >> come from >> > > our use >> > > > of the land for the good of the world, than from the natives >> who >> > > inhabited >> > > > it previously. Yes, you too have benefited from Jackson' s >> quest, >> > > so find a >> > > > better argument about the poor, savage, barbaric, nomadic >> though >> > > culturally >> > > > rich natives who fell easily to manifest destiny. Their >> children >> > > are being >> > > > well taken care of, and now have the benefit of electricity, >> > > inexpensive >> > > > housing, internal combustion, oh, and beer. :) >> >> That's because it IS horribly like that. >> >> >>Just because you can find some good in a bad situation, does not >> >>mean that you think the bad situation was right in the first >> place. >> >>When the world hands you lemons, make lemonade! >> > >> >You didn't even mention the bad side of it until you were >> >challenged, and you've been back-pedalling ever since. >> >> So you're still here, but only on sufferance. The only question is >> whether you can see it yourself or you're blinded by your own >> smoke-and-mirrors act, in which case you'll just do it again, now or >> later. Careful with that reply, better not to. >> >> Keith Addison >> Journey to Forever >> KYOTO Pref., Japan >> http://journeytoforever.org/ >> Biofuel list owner >> >> >> >> >Bright Blessings, >> >Kim >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Biofuel mailing list >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >> messages): >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/