Hello.

I have a problem with my new processor. I asked the person who was selling
it if it was self priming and he responded yes, it could even suck water
from 6meters. Ofcourse I didnt believe him, but I hotught that it
probabbly could manage 40 cm. Well it cant. And ı have already
mounted above the fluid level.

I have to use a vaccum pump to pull the wvo in to the pump :(

Is there anotherh alternative? Can anytone help?


THank you in advance

Teoman


> Rudtard Kipling is rolling is his grave but William Easterly probably
> approves of pretty much everything you've said.
>
> Michael Redler wrote:
>
>> I just wanted to chime in here.
>>
>> Keith wrote:
>>
>> "It reached a stage here where the list would not have
>> survived unless we'd formulated the rules, which were already there,
>> we didn't just make them up."
>>
>> It's also too common to see a reactionary restriction of expression,
>> screening all posts before distribution (for example).
>>
>> This forum proves that a loose framework is very effective
>> at maintaining individual freedoms while allowing it's membership to
>> participate in maintaining continuity.
>>
>> Kim: I read some of your posts and couldn't help notice the
>> similarities between your views and the ideology driving the White
>> Man's Burden. Maybe it's time to rethink the ideals to which we, in
>> the US, have been indoctrinated. Maybe it's a good time to question
>> the perceived credibility and legacy left behind by people like
>> McCarthy and accept the fact that it's not acceptable to steer the
>> culture, economy and government of another country simply because you
>> feel you're "better".
>>
>> You wrote: "Our right to determine the direction of our life today is
>> unparalleled in human history."
>>
>> So, Babylon, Ancient Greece, etc. don't count. The Magna Carta was
>> "just a piece of paper" (if I can borrow an expression from our
>> president).
>>
>> There have been and are, better examples of democracy in human history
>> than the republic we Americans pretend to push on others in the
>> process of building an empire.
>>
>> Do some research on our Constitution and it's origins. It will lead
>> you in a few directions - one of which is toward the Iroquois nation.
>> Ask an Iroquois about their "right to determine their life" - if you
>> can find one. You talk about the reassignment of land for the greater
>> good but conveniently under emphasize the eradication of those people
>> in the process of fulfilling that illusion.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> */Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>>
>>     Hello Kim
>>
>>     >Greetings,
>>     >I do believe that many people on this list don't read real well.
>>
>>     I think you're relying on it. No doubt a new subject-title and
>>     dumping all the evidence helps. The ones who disagree with you read
>>     quite well though. The un-keyhole view is of Kim trying to backpedal
>>     her way up a pedestal, in defiance of the laws of gravity and
>> pedals.
>>
>>     >I did say I was in favor of colonizing the stars, not the
>> colonizing
>>     >that happened in past history and is happening today by the
>>     >corporate world.
>>
>>     Um, sorry, not so. In fact you were also criticised for the
>>     colonising the stars bit, and you ignored that too. But for a lot of
>>     forbearance you could have got the boot just for that, and much
>>     besides. You should read the list rules again. They're there for a
>>     reason. It reached a stage here where the list would not have
>>     survived unless we'd formulated the rules, which were already there,
>>     we didn't just make them up. They had to be put into a form that
>>     people could be referred to and told to read and comply with when
>>     they joined. If not no list any more long ago already.
>>
>>     A major reason for it was to put a stop to this kind of vanishing
>> act
>>     that denialists of all stripes like to pull with what they said
>>     yesterday. You're not a denialist? But you walk the walk. The rules
>>     are all about integrity. Please go and read them.
>>     http://snipurl.com/mx7r
>>
>>     >I do find good in many bad situations. Do I wish that certain
>>     >changes had come about in a more humane manner, of course. Part of
>>     >getting over hatred is seeing that even though you hated a
>>     >situation, some personal good came from it. Hatred is bad for the
>>     >person who hates, not the person who is hated.
>>
>>     Morally and spiritually, indeed so. Practically, well, what will you
>>     say, Kim? At least the victims were pure of heart when they got
>>     slaughtered so it was a Good Thing for them, they didn't get the
>>     chance to pollute their spirits with negative feelings like hatred
>>     afterwards? Only a pessimistic person who sees no hope for humanity
>>     and knows nothing about history could disagree, eh? Sure, you didn't
>>     say that, but it's not far from what you did say, which you're now
>>     trying to sweep under the corner of the carpet, as usual. That's
>>     right, I'm going to unsweep it a little, did you think I wouldn't?
>>     You think some strange things. What made you think I wouldn't check
>>     the snopes reference you posted even if you didn't? Denialists don't
>>     do metaphor either, they say "I didn't say that!"
>>
>>     >By distancing
>>
>>     Hm.
>>
>>     >and looking for good, one can overcome hatred of even a whole race.
>>
>>     Hating a whole race, my word.
>>
>>     >To say that by finding good in a situation that you condoned the
>>     >original sin is nonsense.
>>
>>     It might be. If you use the good that you look for to distract from
>>     the "original sin" it might not be such nonsense. If you set out in
>>     search of a "good" in order to use it for that purpose it'd be even
>>     less nonsense. And when you use the perceived good to disappear the
>>     original sin altogether it's not nonsense at all.
>>
>>     Perceived good:
>>
>>     >[Kim] For that matter, I do believe that Native women have more
>>     rights
>>     >now than they had when they were property of the men in their
>>     families.
>>
>>     Isn't that pretty much what the US military says when they succeed
>> in
>>     liberating a village only they had to kill most of the villagers and
>>     bomb all the buildings first, but hey, at least they're free, it's
>>     the only way to make omelettes, getting bombed is almost as good for
>>     you as getting colonised.
>>
>>     >That would be like saying a black person who looking at the
>>     >situation in Africa and counting his blessings that his family is
>> in
>>     >America, condoned the slavery that brought his family to America.
>>
>>     I think a lot of Africans would object to that view, with reason. Do
>>     you think that's what the blacks in New Orleans who were on TV after
>>     Hurricane Katrina were thinking and it made them feel all warm and
>>     cosy inside, who needs a bus ticket? You had a different view of
>> them
>>     at the time, and it's part and parcel of the current consignment.
>>
>>     >Taking a balance view and learning to not hate for the past by
>>     >finding good in it should not be the antithesis to a sustainable
>>     >world.
>>
>>     Indeed it's not, but that's not the same as using some perceived
>>     benefit that's far from clear to say the least to hey-presto an
>>     horrendous slaughter into a Good Thing for everybody including the
>>     victims, and just for a bonus the survivors' women are freer now
>> too,
>>     your "balanced view". When challenged your argument was that at
>> least
>>     you can see some hope for humanity, unlike me, LOL! Now the only
>>     option you're leaving to seeing it all your way, in the sanitised
>> new
>>     clothes you've dressed it up in, is to be doomed to hatred as well
>> as
>>     an historically challenged pessimist.
>>
>>     I wonder how much you know about hatred? Me, well I don't hate
>>     anyone. It's not just armchair stuff, I've had my share of reasons
>>     for hatred. I can see them now, clear as the day they happened,
>> scene
>>     after scene after scene, like a movie. It sort of doesn't leave you
>> a
>>     lot of room for trying to fabricate pretences about it. How many
>>     times have you seen people being slaughtered? There's more than one
>>     way of doing it too, some of the no-blood-and-guts ways are even
>>     worse, and there are lots of other hateful things short of outright
>>     slaughter. I tried hatred once, I mentioned it the other day. I got
>>     the most powerful lesson I've ever had, in short order. Don't hate!
>>     As Gustl says, you can hate the hateful deed, but not the doer. It
>>     can be hard!
>>
>>     >To build a sustainable world, we need to fight current evil yes,
>> but
>>     >we also need to forgive and forget the past so we can live in
>> peace,
>>     >not hundreds of years of fighting.
>>
>>     Forgive and forget, fool me twice, right. You have to face up to the
>>     past and its lessons or you'll repeat them. You're just denying the
>>     past because it doesn't fit nice and comfortably with what you want
>>     to believe. That's your prerogative, but it's not your prerogative
>> to
>>     try to weave it into the fabric of what goes on here. Somebody was
>>     talking about memes, and some of them are toxic.
>>
>>     Forgetting isn't good for you. Forgiving has two sides to it, it
>>     requires reconciliation,which involves repentance and a mending of
>>     ways, as well as truth, and even then it might be a good idea to
>>     check under the corner of the carpet.
>>
>>     Just turning your back on hundreds of years of fighting and running
>>     away from it thinking you can leave it all behind that way doesn't
>>     exactly cut it when you wipe out most of an entire people who happen
>>     to be occupying "your" new home and then focus on finding bigger and
>>     better ways of doing it all over the world, like now for instance.
>>     That was the objection to your scheme to colonise the stars, God
>> help
>>     all the little green men with their peace pipes. But maybe the
>>     surviving little green women will be freer.
>>
>>     So what's under the corner of the carpet? Hey-unpresto, the corpus
>>     delicti, or part thereof:
>>
>>     > >Kim at Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote:
>>     > >
>>     > >"Each time we have opened a new area we have grown in human
>>     rights for a
>>     > >short time. "
>>     > >
>>     > >Kim,
>>     > >I doubt if Native Americans, Indigenous peoples all over the
>>     world, and
>>     > >anyone who has had their land taken by invaders will agree with
>>     this
>>     > >statement. I applaud your desire to be an optimist rather than a
>>     > >pessimist, but
>>     > >optimism should be based on a willingness to look at all facts
>>     honestly.
>>     > >Best wishes,
>>     > >Marilyn
>>     >
>>     >Greetings,
>>     >I never said it was equal or that no one suffered, but hereditary
>>     wealth
>>     >lost it's hold a bit each time a new area opened. Looking back at
>>     Ancient
>>     >Greece and Rome, this happened right up to the opening of the
>>     >Americas. For that matter, I do believe that Native women have
>>     more rights
>>     >now than they had when they were property of the men in their
>>     families. It
>>     >depends on what you choose to look at and in how general of terms
>>     you are
>>     >speaking. First Americans did practise slavery. Our right to
>>     determine
>>     >the direction of our life today is unparalleled in human history.
>>     The fact
>>     >that not all people have this right, does not take away from the
>>     >achievement of this freedom. It just means that we need to work
>>     harder so
>>     >that all people can have this right. As to the view of aboriginal
>>     people,
>>     >I have also discovered that their view of the invaders depends on
>>     their
>>     >status within their people and their sex. Not all invaders were
>>     horrid,
>>     >some came to love. This is where the Metis come from.
>>     >Bright Blessigns,
>>     >Kim
>>
>>     The comparison I made:
>>
>>     >Sorry to say so, but that sounds horribly like this:
>>     >
>>     > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Morgan" wrote:
>>     > > > All I can add in our defense, is that much more good has
>>     come from
>>     > > our use
>>     > > > of the land for the good of the world, than from the natives
>> who
>>     > > inhabited
>>     > > > it previously. Yes, you too have benefited from Jackson' s
>>     quest,
>>     > > so find a
>>     > > > better argument about the poor, savage, barbaric, nomadic
>> though
>>     > > culturally
>>     > > > rich natives who fell easily to manifest destiny. Their
>> children
>>     > > are being
>>     > > > well taken care of, and now have the benefit of electricity,
>>     > > inexpensive
>>     > > > housing, internal combustion, oh, and beer. :)
>>
>>     That's because it IS horribly like that.
>>
>>     >>Just because you can find some good in a bad situation, does not
>>     >>mean that you think the bad situation was right in the first
>> place.
>>     >>When the world hands you lemons, make lemonade!
>>     >
>>     >You didn't even mention the bad side of it until you were
>>     >challenged, and you've been back-pedalling ever since.
>>
>>     So you're still here, but only on sufferance. The only question is
>>     whether you can see it yourself or you're blinded by your own
>>     smoke-and-mirrors act, in which case you'll just do it again, now or
>>     later. Careful with that reply, better not to.
>>
>>     Keith Addison
>>     Journey to Forever
>>     KYOTO Pref., Japan
>>     http://journeytoforever.org/
>>     Biofuel list owner
>>
>>
>>
>>     >Bright Blessings,
>>     >Kim
>>
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