Hi Terry,
                The projected rise in sea levels is about five metres (just
over 16 feet) in the next 100 years. That gives us plenty of time to pick up
our beach umbrellas and move back a few feet. Over 90 per cent of our
population lives with a half-hour drive of the sea so the issue is one of
great interest here. In my case it will bring the nearest tidal water
(currently 300 yards away) to within a hundred yards of my front lawn and
maybe take out a few of my grape vines.
It's a worry I tell you.
Regards,
Bob.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Dyck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of Surviving Peak Oil


> Hi Bob,
>
> New Zealand must be the perfect place to live.  You have won awards for
> environmental projects and you are planting seeds to grow diesel trees.
> Congratulations.  Those beaches you mentioned could be in trouble, though,
> when the sea rises.
>
> Terry Dyck
>
>
> >From: "Bob Molloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> >To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of Surviving Peak Oil
> >Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:48:43 +1300
> >
> >Jeez Mike,
> >                    No, definitely not New Zealand, we've limited our
> >population to four million and we only have an area just a little larger
> >than the British Isles. Besides we've got an anti-nuclear policy and live
> >under an ozone hole for much of the summer. Anyway we've got too much
water
> >and forest and mountains and stuff, the South Pole is just over the
> >horizon, we've got all these beaches that nobody uses, deer and horses
and
> >pig that run wild, eels in every stream, fish coming out of our ears and
> >sheep everywhere. You'd hate it.
> >Trust me,
> >Bob.
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: M&K DuPree
> >   To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> >   Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:07 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of Surviving Peak Oil
> >
> >
> >   See Stephen Leeb's The Coming Economic Collapse: How You Can Thrive
When
> >Oil Costs $200 a Barrel.  Leeb would have us buying stocks in various
> >companies because that's his business.  The points he makes about why the
> >price of oil must rise to levels far beyond we know today are my reason
for
> >directing our attention to the book.  It really does come down to a
massive
> >population growing exponentially and an economic model promoted by the
USA.
> >  Bottom line is, we're screwed, at least as far as the world as we've
> >known it run on oil is concerned.  Maybe all the JTF List could put our
> >money, talents, and lives together on some remote island or somewhere in
> >New Zealand and start something that might survive through the coming
chaos
> >and become a beacon of hope to the world.  Use the JTF Credo as our basis
> >for community life.  I'm serious!  What, aint gonna happen???  Ah well,
to
> >unquote something the bard didn't say, all's not well that doesn't end
> >well.  Ah well... Mike DuPree
> >



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