Tom and Jim I understand. Thks. Chic Thomas Kelly wrote:
> Chic wrote: > "Is it valid to assume prices have gone up do to pressure on > demand not cost build up reasons?" > > No. (Based on the best info I have) > The explanation I received from a representative of a chemical > supply company is consistent with the info at a site James Phelps > provided: > > http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6389243.html > > For various reasons there was an unexpected drop in methanol > production. > The drop in supply coupled with continued demand -----> price increase. > This is similar to the helium shortage (almost thwarted the > Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade) due to two of the major producers > going "off line" at the same time ..... one unexpectedly; the other > to due routine yearly maintenance. > > The methanol price should return to a more reasonable level as > production resumes. Production is supposedly coming back. Before the > price drops, reduced reserves will have to be replenished. > > It would be interesting to plot monthly prices for methanol over > the past few years ..... see if there are months/seasons when the > price is low or high. The representative I talked to said that the > price he pays (northeastern US) goes up a bit during our winter months > due to increased demand for windshield washed fluid that is winterized > w. methanol. Those of us who have the luxury of safe storage space > might consider buying an extra barrel or two when the price is low. > > Tom > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* FRANCISCO <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org > <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:22 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? > > I assume the metanol demand world wide is increasing as biofuels > production are increasing sharply. Is it valid to assume prices > have gone up do to pressure on demand not cost build up reasons? > VEry best > Chic > > VAN DER SLUYS, WILLIAM wrote: > >>It is my understanding that most of the methanol available in the US is >>produced from ethylene (petroleum). I'm not surprising that methanol prices >>have gone up, but, I am surprised it took so long for them to do so. They >>probably will come back down in the near future since oil prices have >>moderated. >> >>The other way to make methanol is from wood, by way of pyrolysis (destructive >>heating which also produces charcoal) but this is not commonly done since it >>is more difficult and costly. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Thomas Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? >> >> >> >> >>>Hello All, >>> Did I miss the news? >>> Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol >>>recently? >>> >>> I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price >>>( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon .... 35% >>>increase in a few months? >>> I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing >>>mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Biofuel mailing list >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/