Tom and Jim
I understand. Thks.
Chic

Thomas Kelly wrote:

> Chic wrote:
>     "Is it valid to assume prices have gone up do to pressure on 
> demand not cost build up reasons?"
>  
>      No. (Based on the best info I have)
>      The explanation I received from a representative of a chemical 
> supply company is consistent with the info at a site James Phelps 
> provided:
>  
> http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6389243.html
>  
>      For various reasons there was an unexpected drop in methanol 
> production.
> The drop in supply coupled with continued demand  -----> price increase.
>      This is similar to the helium shortage (almost thwarted the 
> Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade) due to two of the major producers 
> going "off line" at the same time   .....  one unexpectedly; the other 
> to due routine yearly maintenance.
>  
>      The methanol price should return to a more reasonable level as 
> production resumes. Production is supposedly coming back. Before the 
> price drops, reduced reserves will have to be replenished.
>  
>      It would be interesting to plot monthly prices for methanol over 
> the past few years  .....  see if there are months/seasons when the 
> price is low or high. The representative I talked to said that the 
> price he pays (northeastern US) goes up a bit during our winter months 
> due to increased demand for windshield washed fluid that is winterized 
> w. methanol.  Those of us who have the luxury of safe storage space 
> might consider buying an extra barrel or two when the price is low.
>  
>                                    Tom
>     
>
>
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* FRANCISCO <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>     <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:22 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
>
>     I assume the metanol demand world wide is increasing as biofuels
>     production are increasing sharply. Is it valid to assume prices
>     have gone up do to pressure on demand not cost build up reasons?
>     VEry best
>     Chic
>       
>     VAN DER SLUYS, WILLIAM wrote:
>
>>It is my understanding that most of the methanol available in the US is 
>>produced from ethylene (petroleum).  I'm not surprising that methanol prices 
>>have gone up, but, I am surprised it took so long for them to do so.  They 
>>probably will come back down in the near future since oil prices have 
>>moderated.
>>
>>The other way to make methanol is from wood, by way of pyrolysis (destructive 
>>heating which also produces charcoal) but this is not commonly done since it 
>>is more difficult and costly.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Thomas Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: biofuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Hello All,
>>>     Did I miss the news?
>>>     Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol
>>>recently?
>>>    
>>>     I just got the bill for a delivery (two  55gal barrels). Previous price
>>>( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon  ....  35%
>>>increase in a few months?
>>>     I'll call my supplier in a little while ...  maybe it's just a billing
>>>mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info.  
>>>
>>>                       Thanks,
>>>                             Tom
>>>
>>>    
>>>
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