apparently they do not run so well if the owner is not smart enough not to put gasoline in it. yes I saw it.
From: Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 11:28:14 -0600
>Biodiesel Smart Car
>
>Joe Street wrote:
>
> > SUV's are a laugh.(or else I'd cry) The other day as I was walking
> > home from work I noticed a shiny black new looking SUV parked up the
> > street. I think it was a jeep brand and in big letters emblazoned on
> > the rear bumper was the word PATRIOT. I had a good belly laugh as I
> > walked by it lstening to some music by Dream Theater about stem cell
> > research and I thought, yeah it is your patriotic duty to drive an
> > inefficient vehicle in amerika isn't it. LOL.
> > Support Bushco....be a patriot, drive a Patriot.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > Kirk McLoren wrote:
> >
> >> The Wellingtons are scary. Narcisstic and psychotic. How anyone could
> >> be that out of touch and yet pass for functioning. But they are in my
> >> neighborhood too.
> >> I get the impression they have the intellectual perception of a 6
> >> year old and that isnt fair to a lot of 6 year olds.
> >> Hate to be seen in something not new. And there are children going to
> >> bed hungry.
> >> Disgusting toads.
> >>
> >> Kirk
> >>
> >> */Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm surprised at you, Keith. You're not very sympathetic.
> >>
> >>
> >> SUV OWNERS PUZZLED BY HIGH GAS PRICES
> >>
> >>
> >> by Ben Radstein, staff reporter
> >>
> >> Before the war in Iraq began, SUV owners were polled
> >> about their attitudes toward the
> >> upcoming conflict, and by a very wide margin, they supported the
> >> idea.
> >> They all seemed to believe that the war would lower oil prices,
> >> and make
> >> fueling their gas guzzling behemoths cheap. Now many are expressing
> >> dismay that this has not occurred. I spoke again to William and
> >> Susan
> >> Wellington, who expressed confusion about the current situation.
> >>
> >> "I used to see bumper stickers and tee shirts that said kick
> >> their ass,
> >> take their gas." said Mr. Wellington, "We have done the first
> >> part of
> >> that, why not the rest? Iraq has the world's second largest oil
> >> reserve,
> >> and now we control it, but gas costs more now than it did before the
> >> war. It is already over two dollars a gallon, and I need premium!"
> >>
> >> "We were going to buy a new SUV once the Escalade is eighteen months
> >> old, and loses that new feeling," added Mrs. Wellington "but now
> >> I don't
> >> know. I hate having to be seen in anything old. If I didn't know
> >> better,
> >> I might think that young chap I saw on the University campus talking
> >> about peak oil wasn't crazy."
> >>
> >> For those who don't know, peak oil
> >> is the theory that the
> >> world's oil supply can be represented as a bell curve. The first
> >> half of
> >> it will be easy to extract, and therefore cheap. The second half
> >> would
> >> be increasingly difficult to remove from the ground, and
> >> increasingly
> >> expensive. Depending upon whom you believe, the result of this
> >> could be
> >> mere inconvenience, prolonged recession, or war, famine,
> >> pestilence and
> >> death.
> >>
> >> I asked the Wellingtons to consider whether peak oil was a valid
> >> theory,
> >> and if we had hit it. Susan nodded no, and William bellowed.
> >> "That's a
> >> bunch of vegan tree-hugger doom-saying nonsense! Where did you
> >> get that
> >> idea, Al Gore? Are you trying to cause panic? Why do you liberals
> >> hate
> >> America? We will have oil for centuries to come if we just look
> >> for it.
> >> We have heard this nonsense since the 1970s. It was not true
> >> then, and
> >> it's not true now. I don't know exactly why gas prices are so
> >> high, but
> >> I would wager my last dollar that it is Bill Clinton's fault. After
> >> all, it was he who drove Rush Limbaugh to drugs, and he should
> >> accept
> >> responsibility for that"
> >>
> >> The Wellingtons would not talk to me any further after that. I
> >> wonder
> >> how long big SUVs will keep selling with gas at these prices.
> >> Will they
> >> still say that fuel-efficient cars are only for tree-huggers in a
> >> year?
> >> One thing is for certain. People who depend on cheap oil don't
> >> want to
> >> talk about peak oil.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Keith Addison wrote:
> >>
> >> >Different point I know, but US gasoline prices are currently
> >> $2.87 to
> >> >$3.37 a (US) gallon, very cheap!
> >> >
> >> >Weekly Retail Premium Gasoline Prices (Including Taxes)
> >> >
> >> >Date 4/30/07 (U.S. Dollars per Gallon)
> >> >Belgium 6.80
> >> >France 6.71
> >> >Germany 7.09
> >> >Italy 6.68
> >> >Netherlands 7.77
> >> >UK 7.07
> >> >US 3.18
> >> >
> >> >Another source:
> >> >
> >> >pence/litre
> >> >Austria 75
> >> >Belguim 95
> >> >Czech Rep 71.5
> >> >Denmark 92.2
> >> >Eire 74.5
> >> >Finland 89.4
> >> >France 85.2
> >> >Germany 90
> >> >Greece 65.7
> >> >Netherlands 100.3
> >> >Hungary 83.5
> >> >Italy 87.2
> >> >Luxembourg 76.5
> >> >Norway 94.8
> >> >Poland 79.5
> >> >Portugal 85.8
> >> >Spain 66.4
> >> >Sweden 82.1
> >> >Switzerland 72.1
> >> >United Kingdom(Av) 96.5
> >> >USA 37.5
> >> >
> >> >Gasoline in the US costs half or less what it costs in other
> >> >industrialised countries.
> >> >
> >> >Much too cheap, $10 would be better, make it soon.
> >> >
> >> >Best
> >> >
> >> >Keith
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>Like evey freakin law, special cases are not accounted for.
> >> >>Consequently, laws are made to be broken. Bhandari needs to show
> >> >>the copy of his letter from the Wisconsin Dept of Ag to customers,
> >> >>make a big stink out of this. Get folks to beat their state reps
> >> >>over the head. Could be a great marketing tool for Bhandari, help
> >> >>him get free publicity, maybe even spread the idea to other
> >> >>stations. This guy has been presented a gift horse. Wonder if he's
> >> >>smart enough to cash in. Mike DuPree
> >> >>
> >> >>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>From: Kirk McLoren
> >> >>To: biofuel
> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:45 AM
> >> >>Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices
> >> >>
> >> >>free market?
> >> >>Kirk
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices
> >> >> May 8 11:26 PM
> >> >>US/Eastern
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> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >>MERRILL, Wis. (AP) - A service station that offered discounted gas
> >> >>to
> >> >>
> >> >>om>senior citizens and people supporting youth sports has been
> >> >>ordered by the state to raise its prices. Center City BP owner Raj
> >> >>Bhandari has been offering senior citizens a 2 cent per gallon
> >> price
> >> >>break and discount cards that let sports boosters pay 3 cents less
> >> >>per gallon.
> >> >>But the
> >> >>
> >> >>&sid=breitbart.com>state Department of Agriculture, Trade and
> >> >>
> >> >>rt.com>Consumer Protection says those deals are too good: They
> >> >>violate Wisconsin's Unfair Sales Act, which requires stations to
> >> >>sell gas for about 9.2 percent more than the wholesale price.
> >> >>Bhandari said he received a letter from the state auditor in
> >> >>la
> >> >>te April saying the state would sue him if he did not raise his
> >> >>prices. The state could penalize him for each discounted gallon he
> >> >>sold, with the fine determined by a judge.
> >> >>Bhandari, who bought the station in May 2006, said he worries
> >> >>customers will think he stopped the discounts because he wants to
> >> >>make more money. About 10 percent of his customers had used the
> >> >>discount cards.
> >> >>Dale Van Camp of Merrill said he bought a $50 card to support the
> >> >>local youth hockey program. It would have saved him about $100 per
> >> >>year on gas, he said.
> >> >>___
> >> >>Information from: Wausau Daily Herald,
> >> http://www.wausaudailyherald.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
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