Hi Keith,

        Giving it all an extra moment of thought, I realize the following; 
While mankind is able to exploit the planet's resources, nature owns 
mankind. Owns us absolutely, there is no negotiation. I probably knew 
that all along, but it slips my mind, time to time.

Doug, N0LKK
Kansas USA inc.

Keith Addison wrote:
> Hi Doug
> 
>> Judging by the writings of Thomas Paine I ran across recently, all of
>> mankind owns our planet(nature?) in common. Agrarian Justice
>> http://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper2/CDFinal/Paine/agrarian.html
> 
> Thankyou!
> 
>> The more history I discover, the more I wonder how the USA got from then
>> to now. And thanks for sending the link to the etc group report. Ralf
>> Nader or some one else with similar experience with corporate world,
>> should pull an Al Gore, taking this information to the people.
>> Doug, N0LKK
> 
> All of mankind owns the planet though... Only mankind? Doesn't nature 
> own itself?
> 
> Ecuador's new constitution includes an article that grants nature the 
> right to "exist, persist, maintain and regenerate its vital cycles, 
> structure, functions and its processes in evolution" and will grant 
> legal standing to any person to defend those rights in court.
> 
>> <http://www.metafilter.com/75251/Ecuador-has-a-new-constitution>
>> Ecuador has a new constitution
>> September 29, 2008
>> Voters in Ecuador appear to have approved a new constitution 
>> yesterday, guaranteeing rights to clean water, universal healthcare, 
>> pensions, and free state-run education through the university level. 
>> It also may allow President Rafael Correa to remain in power until 
>> 2017. Particularly of note is a world first bill of rights for 
>> nature which grants inalienable rights to nature.
>> <http://www.ecoearth.info/shared/reader/welcome.aspx?linkid=107108>
>> <http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/29/ecuador-constitution-grants-nature-rights/>
>>
>> The specific provisions state: (source)
>>
>> "Chapter: Rights for Nature
>>
>> Art. 1. Nature or Pachamama, where life is reproduced and exists, 
>> has the right to exist, persist, maintain and regenerate its vital 
>> cycles, structure, functions and its processes in evolution.
>>
>> Every person, people, community or nationality, will be able to 
>> demand the recognitions of rights for nature before the public 
>> organisms. The application and interpretation of these rights will 
>> follow the related principles established in the Constitution.
>>
>> Art. 2. Nature has the right to an integral restoration. This 
>> integral restoration is independent of the obligation on natural and 
>> juridical persons or the State to indemnify the people and the 
>> collectives that depend on the natural systems.
>>
>> In the cases of severe or permanent environmental impact, including 
>> the ones caused by the exploitation on non renewable natural 
>> resources, the State will establish the most efficient mechanisms 
>> for the restoration, and will adopt the adequate measures to 
>> eliminate or mitigate the harmful environmental consequences.
>>
>> Art. 3. The State will motivate natural and juridical persons as 
>> well as collectives to protect nature; it will promote respect 
>> towards all the elements that form an ecosystem.
>>
>> Art. 4. The State will apply precaution and restriction measures in 
>> all the activities that can lead to the extinction of species, the 
>> destruction of the ecosystems or the permanent alteration of the 
>> natural cycles.
>>
>> The introduction of organisms and organic and inorganic material 
>> that can alter in a definitive way the national genetic patrimony is 
>> prohibited.
>>
>> Art. 5. The persons, people, communities and nationalities will have 
>> the right to benefit from the environment and form natural wealth 
>> that will allow wellbeing.
>>
>> The environmental services are cannot be appropriated; its 
>> production, provision, use and exploitation, will be regulated by 
>> the State."
> 
> I think that's great!
> 
> Best
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
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