Hi Kirk

>We are told the ozone hole is due to atmospheric chlorine, not energy
>consumption. Man's contribution to the atmospheric chlorine is 1/2 of 1%.
>(1/200th) Its like saying a robin flying in front of a tornado is the reason
>you lost your roof.
>The largest measured ozone hole was in 1968 which is inconsistent with man
>made causes.
>The next biggest hole was after the eruption of Pinatubo. Stratospheric
>chlorine is enormously affected by volcanic eruption. Man's contribution is
>miniscule in comparison.

Not to disagree, but miniscule factors can have unpredictable and 
potentially enormous consequences in complex systems.

Best

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/

 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 5:25 PM
>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [biofuel] Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union
>
>
>Chuck,
>           You are not an American by any chance are you?  As a member of a
>country with less than 5% of the worlds population (280 million divided into
>6 billion = 4.67% by my reckoning) using 60% of the worlds energy maybe you
>should be listened to and your viewpoint as the biggest energy user have
>dominance. Maybe you are right and its a con job but without people argueing
>and discussing it no resolution or solutions is/are  ever going to evolve
>and resolve the problem if it exists. Personally I think its man using all
>these vehicles and man cutting down all the trees in the world. Or maybe its
>all these farting sheep down here in NZ. After all there is a big hole down
>here in the ozone layer near Antartica and if NZ is the closest to it there
>has to be a reason for it so maybe this sheep idea is not so stupid. Anyway
>as one of the people who live here and who is obviously one of the main
>contributors who am I to throw stones?
>B.r.,  David
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:44 AM
>Subject: Re: [biofuel] Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union
>
>
> > This climate change propaganda is a con job. Stop the crap.


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