On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 03:35:13PM -0800, Juli Mallett wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 15:30, Qing Li <qin...@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> A couple of questions:
> >>
> >> (1) It used to be the case that quite a few interface drivers and types
> >> didn't have a notion of "link up" -- especially older ethernet devices. ?Do
> >> those all have the same problem? ?It was probably a design oversight that
> >>?devices don't declare an explicit capability for "can report link state".
> >>
> >
> > ?What you raised is definitely a possibility and these fixes take the
> > ?similar approach. I am going to try and go through each of these
> > ?drivers in /sys/dev/ and converting them, very soon.
> 
> Go through drivers in the embedded port directories, too.  The Octeon
> port's Ethernet driver was broken by this, and it looks like the
> Atheros if_arge is probably broken, too.  I would even suggest going
> back to the old behavior briefly while the port maintainers are given
> an opportunity to update their drivers.  Actually, it looks like only
> MIPS has Ethernet drivers outside of dev/ at a quick glance, but I'd
> be surprised if there weren't other broken examples.

There is also if_npe in the arm/xscale/ixp425 directory and probably
others in the rest of the arm directories.

John
-- 
John Hay -- j...@meraka.csir.co.za / j...@freebsd.org
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