On 2014-04-16 17:55 , Fredy Kuenzler wrote:
> Am 16.04.2014 13:08, schrieb Jeroen Massar:
>> More specifics are evil and give weird routing in various locations.
> 
> Not always. When Init7 started to propagate more specifics to it's four
> /19 and /18, about 2gig of inbound traffic switched from transit links
> to peering links. This is real money and IMHO a valid reason to
> propagate selectivly more specific prefixes (i.E. two /20 for one /19).

While you are absolutely right that it is good for traffic engineering
(how the heck could I disagree with that? :)

When some other entity (especially a transit for other networks) filters
those prefixes out, the results will vary.

The evil part is in the hidden problem it creates; not even the routing
pollution (See also previous response...)

> Massiv deaggregation however is indeed evil, and there are just too many
> networks out there which do it unconsciously in a very stupid way.
> 
> Init7 is filtering away more than 10000 more specific prefixes from
> transit. To explain this a bit further I'd like to point to a
> presentation I gave a while ago during NANOG 54.
> 
> https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog54/presentations/Monday/Kuenzler.pdf

I always liked:
 http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog7/BGP_filtering-swinog.ppt

Always good to see what dogfood gets eaten... :)

Greets,
 Jeroen



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