Not sure which bits of MIME you have in mind but I like the term
Content-Transfer-Encoding, I like the list of such encodings, I like the list of
charsets and I like the way that the user/application gets to choose a suitable
delimiter for the various parts rather than have the protocol designer impose an
unsuitable one.  What don't I like? the term charset, but I think that is too
well embedded to avoid.

Oh and I love the way that the protocol proper is ASCII encoded, so easy to read
and display unlike markup languages, binary encodings etc etc

And I think its guidance about what to do when fields are absent or corrupt is
good, leading to a good chance of interoperability.

Tom Petch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rainer Gerhards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tom Petch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chris Lonvick"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: [Syslog] #5 - character encoding (was: Consensus?)


Well... let me rephrase it slightly ;) After -protocol is finished, we could
actually do something like syslog-mime, which could then describe this as an
optional feature. Might even not be as crazy as it sounds - at least if I look
what has been suggested so far. syslog-mime might be a solution for some of
these needs....

Rainer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rainer Gerhards
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:45 PM
> To: Tom Petch; Chris Lonvick
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Syslog] #5 - character encoding (was: Consensus?)
>
> Tom, WG
>
> I am *not* kidding. If we go for an encoding header, why not
> use MIME?
>
> Rainer
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Petch
> > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:05 AM
> > To: Chris Lonvick
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Syslog] #5 - character encoding (was: Consensus?)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Lonvick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Rainer Gerhards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 2:18 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Syslog] #5 - character encoding (was: Consensus?)
> >
> > > Hi Rainer,
> > >
> > > Let's use this email as an example.  :)  There is no
> > indication that I'm
> > > using US-ASCII encoding or that I'm writing in English.
> >
> > Actually, Chris, there is; when I receive this e-mail, the
> > header contains
> >
> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >
> > so implicitly or explicitly you are telling me it is US-ASCII
> >
> > By contrast, e-mails from Rainer, contain
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > This reply is in charset="iso-8859-1" but by default, my
> > Windows MUA replies in
> > the charset the message came in, so that
> > replying to you I could not then spell Müller properly which
> > I could do to
> > Rainer.  On the
> > other hand, when replying to you, Windows inserts > to denote
> > the incoming text
> > which it suppresses when I reply to Rainer.  And some e-mails
> > I receive are not
> > in US-ASCII but lack the charset= in which case the display
> > on screen is
> > somewhat or totally corrupted.
> >
> > So MIME does an ok job but can be fooled by the rest of the
> > system; if we can do
> > that well with syslog, we should be proud of ourselves.
> >
> > Tom Petch
> >
> >
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