I don't agree with putting all work on hold. Syslog-protocol and syslog-transport-udp still make sense to standardize. And we could explore syslog-transport-ssh, possibly soliciting input from IPR holders first.
Thanks, Anton. > -----Original Message----- > From: Balazs Scheidler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:39 AM > To: Rainer Gerhards > Cc: Anton Okmianski (aokmians); [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Syslog] Draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls-01.txt > > On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 09:38 +0200, Rainer Gerhards wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I agree with Anton on all important issues. I've read the > IPR claim and > > what disturbs me the most is "unpublished pending patent > application". > > This sounds like someone took what we have been discussing (and is > > widely deployed), brought it to a lawyer and is now trying > to make some > > patent out of it. This smells very bad. > > > > Without knowing what exactly is claimed to be invented by > the claimer, I > > can not judge the effect it will have on my work. Anyhow, I do not > > intend to invest any of my time into something that > somebody else claims > > exclusive rights too. If I did, I'd end up with the need to "pay" > > (money-wise or other) for the right to use my own work. > Would I be smart > > if I did that? ;) > > > > The licensing terms themselves sound fair (but are vague > enough to do > > so...). My root concern is that there is nothing that has > been invented > > by that party. I am still waiting for someone to patent the > use of the > > letter "a" ("@" has been tried AFIK)... > > > > I think using a patented technology inside a standard will > definitely > > hinder the acceptance of that standard. Especially if it is > something as > > trivial as syslog over tls. So my vote is to put this work > on hold until > > further clarification can be obtained. If that means we'll have no > > syslog RFC, so be it. That would probably be the better choice... > > My feelings are about the same. I don't really know the US > patent system > specifics, how long does it take to have something concrete about the > patent? > > -- > Bazsi > _______________________________________________ Syslog mailing list Syslog@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/syslog
