Hi,

Here is a review of the syslog-sign document.

This is validation of the XML source file. This file will be submitted
to the rfc-editor when the internet-draft will be publsihed as an RFC.
It helps if the source is "clean", so please fix the reported problems
in the source file. 

---
Validation results for D:\My
Documents\IETF\syslog\escrow\draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18.xml
Processing...

Validating document...
238: element section: validity error : Element section content does
not follow the DTD, expecting (t | figure | texttable | iref |
section)*, got (t list t )
 237: 
 238:                   <section anchor="Version" title="Version">
 239:                           <t>
291: element section: validity error : Element section content does
not follow the DTD, expecting (t | figure | texttable | iref |
section)*, got (t t t list t )
 290: 
 291:                   <section anchor="siggrp" title="Signature
Group and Signature Priority">
 292:                           <t>
459: element section: validity error : Element section content does
not follow the DTD, expecting (t | figure | texttable | iref |
section)*, got (t t list )
 458: 
 459:                   <section anchor="prelims"
title="Preliminaries: Key Management and Distribution Issues">
 460:                           <t>
510: element section: validity error : Element section content does
not follow the DTD, expecting (t | figure | texttable | iref |
section)*, got (t list )
 509: 
 510:                   <section anchor="build" title="Building the
Payload Block">
 511:                           <t>
523: element list: validity error : Element list content does not
follow the DTD, expecting (t)+, got (t t t list t )
 522: 
 523:                           <list style="letters">
 524:                                   <t>
759: element section: validity error : Element section content does
not follow the DTD, expecting (t | figure | texttable | iref |
section)*, got (t list t )
 758: 
 759:                   <section anchor="flex" title="Flexibility">
 760:                           <t>
794: element section: validity error : Element section content does
not follow the DTD, expecting (t | figure | texttable | iref |
section)*, got (t list t t )
 793: 
 794:                   <section anchor="offline" title="Offline
Review of Logs">
 795:                           <t>
806: element list: validity error : Element list content does not
follow the DTD, expecting (t)+, got (t t t list t )
 805: 
 806:                           <list style="letters">
 807:                                   <t>
834: element list: validity error : Element list content does not
follow the DTD, expecting (t)+, got (t t list t )
 833:                                   
 834:                                   <list style="numbers">
 835:                                           <t>
891: element section: validity error : Element section content does
not follow the DTD, expecting (t | figure | texttable | iref |
section)*, got (t list t )
 890:                   
 891:                   <section anchor="online" title="Online Review
of Logs">
 892:                           <t>
1640: element front: validity error : Element front content does not
follow the DTD, expecting (title , author+ , date , area* , workgroup*
, keyword* , abstract? , note*), got (title author author date
seriesInfo )
1639:                   <reference anchor='RFC3414'>
1640:                           <front>
1641:                           <title abbrev='USM for
SNMPv3'>User-based Security Model (USM) for version 3 of the Simple
Network Management Protocol (SNMPv3)</title>
1654: element front: validity error : Element front content does not
follow the DTD, expecting (title , author+ , date , area* , workgroup*
, keyword* , abstract? , note*), got (title author date seriesInfo )
1653:                   <reference anchor='RFC3629'>
1654:                           <front>
1655:                           <title abbrev='UTF-8'>UTF-8, a
transformation format of ISO 10646</title>
1665: element front: validity error : Element front content does not
follow the DTD, expecting (title , author+ , date , area* , workgroup*
, keyword* , abstract? , note*), got (title author author date
seriesInfo )
1664:                   <reference anchor='RFC4291'>
1665:                           <front>
1666:                           <title abbrev='IPv6 Addressing'>IP
Version 6 Addressing Architecture</title>
1679: element front: validity error : Element front content does not
follow the DTD, expecting (title , author+ , date , area* , workgroup*
, keyword* , abstract? , note*), got (title author author date
seriesInfo )
1678:                    <reference anchor='RFC4234'>
1679:                           <front>
1680:                           <title abbrev='ABNF for Syntax
Specifications'>Augmented BNF for Syntax Specifications: ABNF</title>
...validation failed
Performing additional checks...
49: fyi: anchor intro not referenced
  48:   <middle>
  49:           <section anchor="intro" title="Introduction">
  50:                   <t>
116: fyi: anchor conventions not referenced
 115: 
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in this Document">
 117:                   <t>
124: fyi: anchor format not referenced
 123: 
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Format">
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165: fyi: anchor sigBlock not referenced
 164: 
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Format and Fields">
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171: fyi: anchor sigBlkPkts not referenced
 170: 
 171:                   <section anchor="sigBlkPkts" title="syslog
Packets Containing a Signature Block">
 172:                           <t>
378: fyi: anchor globBlk not referenced
 377: 
 378:                   <section anchor="globBlk" title="Global Block
Counter">
 379:                           <t>
402: fyi: anchor firstmsg not referenced
 401: 
 402:                   <section anchor="firstmsg" title="First
Message Number">
 403:                           <t>
416: fyi: anchor count not referenced
 415: 
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 417:                           <t>
427: fyi: anchor hash not referenced
 426: 
 427:                   <section anchor="hash" title="Hash Block">
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452: fyi: anchor payncert not referenced
 451: 
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Certificate Blocks">
 453:                   <t>
459: fyi: anchor prelims not referenced
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title="Preliminaries: Key Management and Distribution Issues">
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569: fyi: anchor buildcert not referenced
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the Certificate Block">
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628: fyi: anchor VersionCER not referenced
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title="Version">
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640: fyi: anchor rebootidCER not referenced
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title="Reboot Session ID">
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647: fyi: anchor siggrpCER not referenced
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title="Signature Group and Signature Priority">
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655: fyi: anchor tpbl not referenced
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Payload Block Length">
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662: fyi: anchor index not referenced
 661: 
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into Payload Block">
 663:                                   <t>
670: fyi: anchor fraglen not referenced
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title="Fragment Length">
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677: fyi: anchor sigCER not referenced
 676: 
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title="Signature">
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693: fyi: anchor redunnflex not referenced
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Flexibility">
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703: fyi: anchor redun not referenced
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725: fyi: anchor redunCertblk not referenced
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title="Certificate Blocks">
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742: fyi: anchor redunSigblk not referenced
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title="Signature Blocks">
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759: fyi: anchor flex not referenced
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787: fyi: anchor verify not referenced
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794: fyi: anchor offline not referenced
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Review of Logs">
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of Logs">
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973: fyi: anchor security not referenced
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Considerations">
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title="Cryptography Constraints">
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1005: fyi: anchor SecPacket not referenced
1004: 
1005:                   <section anchor="SecPacket" title="Packet
Parameters">
1006:                           <t>
1031: fyi: anchor SecAuth not referenced
1030: 
1031:                   <section anchor="SecAuth" title="Message
Authenticity">
1032:                           <t>
1048: fyi: anchor SeqDel not referenced
1047: 
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Delivery">
1049:                           <t>
1059: fyi: anchor SecReplay not referenced
1058:                   
1059:                   <section anchor="SecReplay" title="Replaying">
1060:                           <t>
1069: fyi: anchor SecRelDel not referenced
1068: 
1069:                   <section anchor="SecRelDel" title="Reliable
Delivery">
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Delivery">
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1094: fyi: anchor SecInt not referenced
1093: 
1094:                   <section anchor="SecInt" title="Message
Integrity">
1095:                           <t>
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Observation">
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1114: fyi: anchor SecMITM not referenced
1113: 
1114:                   <section anchor="SecMITM" title="Man In The
Middle">
1115:                           <t>
1126: fyi: anchor SecDen not referenced
1125: 
1126:                   <section anchor="SecDen" title="Denial of
Service">
1127:                           <t>
1142: fyi: anchor SecCov not referenced
1141: 
1142:                   <section anchor="SecCov" title="Covert
Channels">
1143:                           <t>
1156: fyi: anchor iana not referenced
1155: 
1156:           <section anchor="iana" title="IANA Considerations">
1157:                   <t>
1181: fyi: anchor ianaVer not referenced
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1181:                   <section anchor="ianaVer" title="Version
Field">
1182:                           <t>
1261: fyi: anchor ianaSIG not referenced
1260: 
1261:                   <section anchor="ianaSIG" title="SIG Field">
1262:                           <t>
1270: fyi: anchor ianabuild not referenced
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Type">
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1280: fyi: anchor authors not referenced
1279: 
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Group Chair">
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1288: error: <figure> inside <t> is deprecated by rfc2629bis
1287:                   The working group can be contacted via the
mailing list:
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1295: error: <figure> inside <t> is deprecated by rfc2629bis
1294:                   The current Chairs of the Working Group may be
contacted at:
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1296:       Chris Lonvick
1310: error: <figure> inside <t> is deprecated by rfc2629bis
1309:                   The authors of this draft are:
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1311:       John Kelsey
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1322: 
1323:           <section anchor="acks" title="Acknowledgements">
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1359: warning: anchor ANSI.X3-4.1968 not referenced
1358:                   
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1360:                           <front>
1391: warning: anchor RFC1034 not referenced
1390: 
1391:                   <reference anchor='RFC1034'>
1392:                           <front>
1405: warning: anchor RFC1035 not referenced
1404:                   
1405:                   <reference anchor='RFC1035'>
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1429: warning: anchor RFC2085 not referenced
1428: 
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1430: 
1653: warning: anchor RFC3629 not referenced
1652: 
1653:                   <reference anchor='RFC3629'>
1654:                           <front>
1664: warning: anchor RFC4291 not referenced
1663: 
1664:                   <reference anchor='RFC4291'>
1665:                           <front>
1678: warning: anchor RFC4234 not referenced
1677: 
1678:                    <reference anchor='RFC4234'>
1679:                           <front>
1695: warning: anchor MENEZES not referenced
1694:           <references title="Informative References">
1695:                   <reference anchor="MENEZES">
1696:                                 <front>
1786: warning: anchor RFC1983 not referenced
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1787: 
1817: warning: anchor RFC2104 not referenced
1816: 
1817:                   <reference anchor='RFC2104'>
1818: 
2007: warning: anchor RFC3339 not referenced
2006: 
2007:                   <reference anchor='RFC3339'>
2008:                           <front>
2050: warning: anchor SCHNEIER not referenced
2049: 
2050:                   <reference anchor="SCHNEIER">
2051:                                 <front>
...done ---

Idnits from http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/idnits.pyht

idnits 1.108 

tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt:

tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(343): RFC 2119 keyword:
format.  It is RECOMMENDED to be used within the syslog protocol as.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(344): RFC 2119 keyword:
defined in RFC xxxx [24].  It MAY be transported over a traditional.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(346): RFC 2119 keyword:
3164 [20], or it MAY be used over the Reliable Delivery of syslog.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(350): RFC 2119 keyword:
entirety, it is imperative that the messages MUST NOT be changed in.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(353): RFC 2119 keyword:
3164 MAY make changes to a syslog packet if specific fields are not.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(403): RFC 2119 keyword:
Signature Block messages MUST be encompassed within completely formed.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(404): RFC 2119 keyword:
syslog messages.  It SHOULD also contain valid APP-NAME, PROCID, and.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(407): RFC 2119 keyword:
the latter case, it is RECOMMENDED that the TAG field have the value.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(410): RFC 2119 keyword:
Signature Block messages MUST be encoded as an SD ELEMENT, as defined.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(438): Line is too long: the
offending characters are 'h'
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(439): Line is too long: the
offending characters are 'y)'
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(442): Line is too long: the
offending characters are 'y)'
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(491): RFC 2119 keyword:
always be set to a value of 0.  Otherwise, it MUST increase whenever.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(494): RFC 2119 keyword:
to 0.  Implementors MAY wish to consider using the snmpEngineBoots.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(627): RFC 2119 keyword:
Signature Block MUST be chosen such that the length of the resulting.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(637): RFC 2119 keyword:
each hash, but the size MUST NOT be shorter than 160 bits.  It is.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(738): RFC 2119 keyword:
Block MUST have the following fields.  Each of these fields are.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(771): RFC 2119 keyword:
that the device MAY make the Certificate Blocks of any legal length.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(915): RFC 2119 keyword:
provides redundancy; since the collector MUST ignore Signature/.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(1210): RFC 2119 keyword:
bytes.  As seen in RFC 3164, relays MAY truncate messages with.
tmp/draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official.txt(1416): RFC 2119 keyword:
SHOULD have the same values in the fields described in this section..


  Checking nits according to http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html:
  * The document seems to lack separate sections for
Informative/Normative
    References.
    
    Checking conformance with RFC 3978/3979 boilerplate...

    the boilerplate looks good.


  Checking nits according to
http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.txt:
  - Mismatching filename: the document gives the document name as
    'draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18', but the file name used is
    'draft-ietf-syslog-sign-18-official'

  Miscellaneous warnings:
  - The document seems to lack the recommended RFC 2119 boilerplate,
even if
    it appears to use RFC 2119 keywords -- however, there's a
paragraph with a
    matching beginning. Boilerplate error?

    RFC 2119 paragraph 2 text:
    "The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL
NOT",
    "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in
this
    document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119."
  
    ... text found in draft:
    "The keywords "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL
NOT",
............^
    "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" that
    appear in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC
    2119 [13].")


    (The document does seem to have the reference to RFC 2119 which
the
    ID-Checklist requires).

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    '[3]   American National Standards Institute, "USA Code for
Informat...'

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    '[4]   Menezes, A., van Oorschot, P., and S. Vanstone, ""Handbook
of...'

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    '[6]   Mockapetris, P., "Domain names - concepts and facilities",
ST...'

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specifica...'

  - Unused Reference: '9' is defined on line 1129, but not referenced
    '[9]   Malkin, G., "Internet Users' Glossary", RFC 1983, August
1996...'

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    '[12]  Krawczyk, H., Bellare, M., and R. Canetti, "HMAC:
Keyed-Hashi...'

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    '[15]  Crocker, D. and P. Overell, "Augmented BNF for Syntax
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    '[16]  Hinden, R. and S. Deering, "IP Version 6 Addressing
Architect...'

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    '[22]  Klyne, G. and C. Newman, "Date and Time on the Internet:
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    '[25]  Schneier, B., "Applied Cryptography Second Edition:
protocols...'


---- spelling

"Predistributed" is not an English word. This could be difficult for
those who rely on translators. "distributed" should be adequate for
the usage. Otherwise, please use 
"pre-distributed"

"SD ELEMENTS(SDEs)" add a space after ELEMENTS

For consistency among all our documents, please use implementers
rather than implementors.

Correspondsss

/permissable/permissible/

Can you spell out the meaning of O(N lg N) at its first usage?

"collusionist" does not appear to be an English word. Would "attacker"
do?

In section 9.3 "Section Section"

Abstract: /"The syslog Protocol", however it may be used atop any
message delivery mechanism, even that/"The syslog Protocol" However it
may be used atop any message delivery mechanism, including that/
and change the following "or" to "and"

Introduction: /the type of key material which may be/the type of key
material, which may be/ -- added a comma

/In the cases of certificates being sent, the certificates may
have/Ceetificates may have/

/actual transport protocol/transport protocol/
/defined in the informational RFC 3164/described in the informational
RFC 3164/

There are lots of "it" references in the document, and in many cases
it would be better if it was spelled out to be unambiguous.
"The MSG part of the syslog message as defined in RFC xxxx [23] will
simply be empty - it is not intended for interpretation by humans"
What isn't intended for human consumption, the MSG? this
specification? The signature block? Syslog-sign messages?

/Having said that, as stated above,//
/independent of the SD-ID definitions and/independent of the SD-ID
definitions, and/

/The SD-ID must have the value of "ssign"./The SD-ID MUST have the
value of "ssign"./

--- general review

snmpEngineBoots has a range of 1..2147483647 and records the reboot of
the SNMP engine. 
The Reboot Session ID has a range of 1..9999999999 and records the
reboot of the device. 

"is rendered useless." - does this mean an attacker culd deliberately
create a denial fo service so that they could then attack the system
with less chance of detection?

I found section 3 a bit hard to follow, since it discusses how this
uses SD-IDs, but is indpendent of SD-IDs, and so on. I think the
backwarsd compatbility discussion should happen after you describe
what the current proposal is. Let's put the discussions about how to
use this with RFC3164 into an appendix, and focus on defining the
current proposal before spending lots of verbiage making sure
everybody is happy that it is all backwards caompatible with rfc3164
and rfc3195.

"The value of each field must be printable ASCII" - can you specify
the range of characters included in "printable ASCII"?

---

I will be sending another review as I read through the document for
content and grammar.

David Harrington
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