On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson <johan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 06/27/2016 02:36 PM, Chris Kühl wrote: >> >> >> Workshops: >> >> A new addition to this year's conference is the workshop day. The goal >> of this day is to offer hands-on training sessions to those who want >> to learn more about systemd. It's intended that these trainings be >> conducted by systemd community members. Proposals for workshops can be >> submitted at https://cfp.systemd.io >> >> If you have questions about workshops please contact us at i...@systemd.io >> > Or you can just be replied to here since you advertise 300 euro > participation fee for workshop schedule that a) does not exist and b) is not > part of the professional package ( read as corporate sponsored individuals > since we do have quite few that would be considered professionals in the > community, where this might be a value add to ) is expected to be conducted > by systemd community members for systemd community members ( since they > would also have to pay 300 euro fee also to attend ). >
Hi Jóhann, There's a few things to address from your comment. Let's see if I can cover them all. Firstly, regarding pricing, the workshop day needs to be completely self-financed, meaning ticket revenue needs to cover the costs of the venue, catering, drinks, & misc. For planning purposes, we assume we'll have approximately the same revenue from non-workshop attendance and sponsorship as last year. That should cover the cost of the conference which this year includes extra costs for the additional space and upgraded (warm) meals. It would be very optimistic to assume we could also cover the extra workshop day comfortably with just that revenue. The reason for having separate tickets for workshop and conference days is simply that the audience is potentially rather different. The workshops are not really intended to be for systemd developers or expert users, which made up a large portion of last years attendees. To reiterate from above, we want to make sure the workshop day can be self-sustained and is not being financed by attendees that are not really interested in the offering. > It would be good to know who's the genius behind this idea, ( read sat > somewhere at an meeting and had the "hey here's an idea let's add workshop > to the mix, have the community manage it and charge 300 euros for it in the > process" ) the pricing behind it and where does all that money go? > The motivation behind the workshop is to open systemd.conf up to those ppl who are looking to learn more about what systemd can do in a more hands-on way. It's something we were considering doing last year but wanted to keep the scope small for the first year. I think most would agree that there is a lot of room left to educate ppl about what systemd is and can do. While I like your extreme optimism, those of us who have to carry the financial risk of putting on the event have to use a more cautious optimism. This is the first year we've done the workshop, so we are being cautious with regards to estimating attendance. Anyway, we're always open to constructive suggestions on how systemd.conf can be better. Cheers, Chris > JBG > _______________________________________________ > systemd-devel mailing list > systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
