On 27/04/2022 14:53, Lennart Poettering wrote:
I think we systematically disagree on one point here: I am pretty sure picking a boot loader is genuinely someting a distro should be doing, and not the admin really. I mean, yes, I personally of course switched away from Fedora's default choice of grub to use sd-boot, and of course I'd prefer if it wasn't such a mess to do so. But also: we should not advertise this as something people should actually do and should make easy to do.
EXCEPT. The boot loader loads the distro. An OS has no say in the computer's choice of BIOS/EFI because that's what starts the distro. Same for boot loader.
There's a whole bunch of comments on LWN at the moment comparing computers to "cattle or pet". For "cattle", yep if the distro chooses the boot loader who cares.
But for "pet"s (like my computer), (a) I'm going to need more hand-holding because I'm not a professional sys-admin, and (b) my system is multi-boot - it's bad enough with distros squabbling over who has control of grub.cfg, without them also squabbling over whether it's grub, systemd-bootd, rEFInd, LILO, whatever whatever.
(Yup, maybe I'm not doing things the best way, but it's my way, and its the way that made sense when I set it up, I don't want to change it ... and it may not be the recommended way but I didn't know there was a recommended way :-)
Cheers, Wol
