Hi,

Whatever process we undertake will have large manual elements to
integrate the datasets and keep them updated.  Even if that is simply
merging the datasets in josm.

We need to get the vicmap data in a form that will have maximum
utility to OSM mappers.

Ian.

On 12 October 2013 09:09, Li Xia <m...@lixia.co> wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> Yes, vicmap data does contain road geometry, names plus many more
> attributes.
>
> Vicmap also produces are raster version from this dataset so that work is
> already done. I will enquiry about getting access to this. However manually
> tracing and editing is a LOT of work.
>
> Does anyone know of a process where a mass import can be done without
> manually tracing imagery?
>
> The dataset is very comprehensive. Here's a quick summary of it's features:
>
> Release under Creative commons 3.0 license, dataset can be obtained in
> various formats from http://www.data.vic.gov.au/ The has heaps of datasets.
> I've downloaded most relevant datasets in shp format and combined the
> datasets into logical structure, download links below. If anyone is interest
> in other features such as forestry reserves, national parks etc, have a look
> and pull the data down from data.vic.
>
> Transport shp data documentation
> Hydro - shp data - documentation
> Administrative - shp data
>
> Li.
>
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>> From: Li <m...@lixia.co>
>> To: Ben Kelley <ben.kel...@gmail.com>
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>> Does anyone have experience on importing data? In particular avoiding
>> duplicates?
>>
>> Li.
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>> > On 10 Oct 2013, at 5:16 pm, Ben Kelley <ben.kel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > I guess the thing to consider is how you would handle a second import if
>> > someone had edited the data in OSM in between.
>> >
>> > I think this kind of conflict would be very difficult to resolve. You
>> > could either plan to do a 1-off import, or maybe include a tag on the
>> > imported data matching a unique identifier for the same feature in the
>> > vicmap data. The US Tiger import did something like this.
>> >
>> >   - Ben Kelley.
>> >
>> >> On 10 Oct 2013 17:12, "Li Xia" <m...@lixia.co> wrote:
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>
>> >> I'm meeting Vicmap and data.gov staff tomorrow to get their blessing on
>> >> importing vicmap data into OSM.
>> >>
>> >> Once the licensing is squared away, we can move onto discussing
>> >> techniques of importing the data. "Snapshot" data in shp format is 
>> >> available
>> >> from data.vic.gov.au. Alternatively a vicmap provides a live feed to 
>> >> weekly
>> >> data diffs directly. Any advice on how to import this data is much
>> >> appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Li
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>> Hi Li
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>> Does the vicmap[ data include road geometry and road names. If so then a
>> really usefull thing to do would be to create an imagery layer from this
>> data that could be used in JOSM.
>> This is what is done in the USA with each year's TIGER data.
>>
>> Then we could use the Bing imagery the vicmap layer and existing data to
>> fill in all the unnamed streets/roads and include any new ones or ones
>> that
>> have not yet been surveyed or traced. It would only be a matter of months
>> and all of Victoria's roads would be completely up to date.
>>
>> Curerently, I'm spending hours each day using the TIGER data and Bing
>> imagery in helping to fix up the horrible original TIGER data but would
>> love to be helping in fixing up Australia.
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