Thanks Warin,

 

I have updated the highway with the details. Would you like to check and then 
remove the previous runway polygon? Not sure it has a specific ‘name’ for the 
runway. I am interested to see how it renders with those details attached.

 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=16/-31.8966/127.6155

 

Cheers - Phil

 

From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, 27 December 2019 4:38 PM
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

 

On 27/12/19 09:44, Phil Wyatt wrote:

Hi Folks,

 

You also need to consider how you deal with emergency road airstrips which are 
pretty common in Australia

 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=16/-31.8969/127.6186

 

There now exists tagging for them 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dhighway_strip


I think the given example is poor. The 'name' is more of a description. Nothing 
to say this is an emergency strip only - the local cops need to remove roadside 
signs and posts for aircraft to land.. and they need to close the highway.  The 
highway lacks the correct tags... 

Note I have never seen any of them on an unpaved road, I would think the RFDS 
would request the road section be paved, and the local council would be hard 
put to say no. 

 

In general I would say that many of the outback strips wont appear on other 
mapping software (certainly not Apple maps) as they often wont even have roads 
in some of these areas. 

 

Maybe mapping threshold to threshold and the graded area will be enough in most 
cases.

 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=1042093864#map=16/-25.2385/122.0674


I think just map the runway aeroway=runway usually with surface=unpaved - no 
airport boundaries, just use the node for the 'airport'.


Node: Katoomba Airfield (1042094263) is a little difficult. 

The person who use to run the airfield died. The new lot have caused some 
controversy with their plans .. 


https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/potential-to-scare-tourists-away-bitter-dispute-engulfs-katoomba-airfield-20190830-p52m9x.html


I expect it is fairly busy now with the fire fighting going on. 






 

Cheers - Phil

 

From: Nemanja Bračko  <mailto:brack...@gmail.com> <brack...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, 27 December 2019 9:16 AM
To: Graeme Fitzpatrick  <mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com> <graemefi...@gmail.com>
Cc: OSM Australian Talk List  <mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> 
<talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Adding polygons of the aerodromes

 

Answers are in line.

 

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 11:10 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com> > wrote:




 

On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 17:33, Nemanja Bračko <brack...@gmail.com 
<mailto:brack...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

@Berjo, as I've noted in my first email we do not have any other signals at the 
moment except imagery, and except for NSW where we have a base map.

 

So this would only be NSW?

No, we would like to add across AU. For the rest of the states/territories we 
would use aerial imagery only. 

 

@others, is it okay to make a polygon when we can recognize tarmac on a 
airstrip and when we can clearly see start and the end of the runway (zebras at 
the beginning and at the end)? 

 

But not all airfields / strips are tarmac, with runway markings!

We know that, just want to establish base line what is acceptable to all of you 
to be marked as a polygon.

 

Where a polygon cannot reasonably be determined usually the runway/s can be 
made out - so just map the runways. 

 

Do you need to draw a polygon? Wouldn't just a runway marking with attached 
node suffice?

We can see all other competitors have polygons in most cases (not all), so we 
want to increase the value of OSM maps as well. We are not keen to just blindly 
add polygons, so this is the reason why we are asking all of you. 

 

Thanks,

Nemanja

 

 

Thanks

 

Graeme






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