As the original mapper of the cycleway in changeset 11862794 and having
viewed Tony's photos [1] to refresh my memory, I concur with Tony's
proposal that the way should be split in two. The western part being a
parkland cycleway and therefore satisfying routing. But the eastern
part, the "cycleway" - perhaps better described as "cycle route" -
follows the St. Andrews Court residential motor road not the narrow
asphalt path that winds around trees, that should be an ordinary
footway=sidewalk as editted by Sebastian. My general observation is that
there should be a balance between rigorously only mapping what is 120%
properly signed cycleway, (this is sadly not true in many parts of the
world and particularly not true in suburban Melbourne), and having a map
that can route cyclists along safe routes that are used on a practical
basis (may or may not be clearly de jure) everyday.
I thank both Sebastian and Tony for the effort put in collaboratively
improving the map. I'm currently on my annual 4 month Melbourne stint -
living this time in Seaford this time and cycle commuting daily through
to Cheltenham. If either of you are in that area and want to meet up
for a social coffee, I'd be delighted. Email me privately. Sadly, only
two more weeks to go this time but will be back in Nov.
Mike
[1]
https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/tonyf1?lat=-37.962247513974&lng=145.01882162969002&z=18.085357379143982&pKey=158986949844367&focus=photo
<https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/tonyf1?lat=-37.962247513974&lng=145.01882162969002&z=18.085357379143982&pKey=158986949844367&focus=photo>
On 2022-03-27 19:33, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
Hi Sebastian and list,
2) are cycle routes cycleways or footways, specifically Changeset:
118627943
I have provided a link to my photos and labeled the main ones at
Changeset: 118627943
I believe that way 671174716 should be split in 2, the eastern part
appears to be the footpath, there is only one side with a footpath,
the bicycle route is intended for the road, St Andrews Ct, not the
footpath
The west section through the parkland is a cycleway, photos 22 and 23
show a bicycle route with green circle below. Its unclear what used to
be in the circle before it faded.
Photo 21 end of McKay shows no signage. I looked.
18 and 19 are a bit confusing, they show a route coming out of Tricks
Reserve
18 partly obscured shows a route east along McKay
51 shows this sign more clearly
Tony
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