Thanks!

Yes, it probably shouldn't be a one size fits all equation.

Against what you said, Rathdowney in SEQ, with ~1800 people, only has a
cafe / takeaway / store with a few grocery items, pub, currently closed
servo, all of police, RFS & (honourary) ambo, primary school, church/s but
it's a very popular day-trip tourist stop, so I would definitely count it
as a town.

Most people travel 30k up the road to Beaudesert for a full range of
services, so that should possibly become a city?

But Maroon, 20k the other way, with only a primary school & a RFS station,
would only be a village.

Thanks

Graeme


On Thu, 28 Sept 2023 at 08:26, cleary <o...@97k.com> wrote:

>
> I agree that population is not necessarily the only factor but, in
> practice, population correlates closely with the services and facilities
> available in a location which is effectively the "relative importance",
> isn't it?
>
> I presume you are considering putting bigger dots and bigger writing on
> the map  for small settlements in isolated areas. Map renderers can do that
> for themselves if they wish. It is more important for OSM to show
> on-the-ground truth.  If a small settlement has few services,  then showing
> it as a town is misleading.
>
> Windorah Qld and Ivanhoe NSW are both currently shown as "town" in OSM but
> neither has more than rudimentary health service (if any), a hotel, small
> primary school and service station. I couldn't buy a coffee in either place
> last time I visited. I don't think either place had even a small
> supermarket or convenience store. Unlikely to find a doctor.  Probably
> wouldn't find a car mechanic, couldn't buy a new tyre if you needed one.
> The locals all travel a couple of hundred kilometres for shopping, health
> care etc.  I find it very misleading to label these places as towns, just
> because they are the largest settlements in their respective vicinities.
> The towns are the places where people go to get the goods and services they
> need.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023, at 2:18 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> > Have just raised this for discussion on both the Forum & Discord, so
> > also throwing it out here.
> >
> >
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Tagging_towns_by_relative_importance%2C_not_just_population_size
> >
> > Any thoughts or comments welcome, in any place!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Graeme
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