If people from outside of Canada have decided that our data is so bad that it 
needs to be completely wiped out in its entirety, then I guess we're going to 
have to do something drastic to try to prevent this. 

@Michael, Frederik, Paul: would it be good enough for us to wipe out any and 
all CanVec forest data (or even ALL forest data because some could have been 
derived from CanVec)? This seems to be the biggest cause for concern. If not, 
what do you think we need to do to prevent all CanVec data from being wiped 
out? Wiping out all CanVec data would effectively clear out the majority of the 
Canadian map and really isn't an option in our minds. Do we need to get rid of 
all forest data and then go on a cooperative fixing blitz (maybe using 
MapRoulette or Tasking Manager) to fix every single JOSM validator error across 
the country? In short, if we're doing things so wrong, what can we do to make 
things right other than have a German revert all of our changesets so we can 
start from scratch? 

Andrew 
Victoria, BC, Canada 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Sam Dyck" <samueld...@gmail.com> 
To: "Talk-CA OpenStreetMap" <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> 
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 2:38:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts 


After reading Paul's email again, its possible that what Nakaner is doing is in 
line with Paul's suggestion, if unnecessarily confrontational. I tried to play 
around in JOSM to see if I could get the forest polygons to a point where 
Nakaner would leave us alone by mercilessly deleting all of the inner ways in 
the forest multipolygons, but because of the way things are structured around 
rivers that would be several hours worth of work for one tile. Given this 
perhaps the only solution is to bulk delete all Canvec forest data. As someone 
who actually finds the forest data useful this would be extremely unfortunate, 
but if it allows us to continue imports without excessive external scrutiny 
then I am willing to except it. (apologies for the English only emails, my 
French writing skills are sadly lacking) 



On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Pierre Béland < pierz...@yahoo.fr > wrote: 




L'idéal préparer Une réponse standard indiquant que l'Import Canvec par la 
communauté OSM Canada est itératif et nous nous assurons collectivement 
d'améliorer les données. Voir page Wiki Import Canvec et venir discuter sur 
Talk-Ca si vous avez d'autres questions. 




Pierre 








De : Sam Dyck < samueld...@gmail.com > 
À : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap < talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > 
Envoyé le : jeudi 1 Septembre 2016 17h06 
Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts 






I received the following changeset comment from Nakaner for a Canvec import 
(changeset 
38158126) at 15:55 Central Time (20:55 UTC): 

"This changeset has uploaded data which does not fit to each other. There is an 
offset between the water areas and the forest areas. Example: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/ way/406539219 
Could you please fix this?" 
I believe the given what we have just spent the last 24 hours discussing this 
request is unreasonable and the issue is not significant. Thoughts? 
Sam 

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