David, do you consider that it would be advantageous to have consensus
on this matter, and a consistent tagging paradigm in OSM? I am not
prejudging what that consensus position might be, just sounding out if
there is any point in having the discussion in the first place.

On 2018-08-28 13:09, David Groom wrote:

> There is no consensus. 
> 
> Personally I'm not in favour of the view that any body of water which is 
> tidal should be bounded by a way tagged as coastline.  
> 
> Reasons for this 
> 
> 1) Ask any one who lives in say central London "do you live on the coast" or 
> do you live beside a river", most would I'm sure say beside a river, so 
> surely our data should reflect that.  I think this probably is what you mean 
> by "seems more natural" 
> 
> 2)  In part because the converse is not true, we bound large non tidal water 
> areas as coastline 
> 
> 3) If knowledge that a body of water is tidal is important it can be tagged 
> "tidal = yes" 
> 
> David 
> 
> ------ Original Message ------ 
> From: "Colin Smale" <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> 
> To: "Talk-GB" <talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> 
> Sent: 28/08/2018 08:49:01 
> Subject: [Talk-GB] Coastline and tidal rivers 
> 
> That old chestnut again... 
> 
> There seems to be an open discussion about how far up a river the 
> natural=coastline should go. The wiki suggests the coastline should be the 
> high water line going up to the tidal limit (often a lock or a wier) but this 
> can be a substantial distance inland. This is AIUI the general scientific 
> approach. 
> 
> There has been some discussion in the past about letting the coastline cut 
> across the river at some convenient point, possibly because it "looks better" 
> or "seems more natural" or "is less work." 
> 
> I looked at a few rivers along the south coast to see how they had been 
> tagged and it seems most have the coastline up to the tidal limit. However 
> the coastline around the mouth of the Dart has recently been modified to cut 
> across the mouth, and Salcombe Harbour is also mapped this way. 
> 
> Is there a consensus for a particular definition of "coastline" in tidal 
> estuaries? Should we try to keep a consistent paradigm, or doesn't it matter? 
> 
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