The official name of the United Kingdom appears to be The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (Encyclopaedia Britannica, Wikipedia etc.). Ireland used for both the whole island and the 26 county sovereign state, while 6 counties of the island of Ireland are currently part of United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland might suggest some form of joint jurisdiction for those 6 counties. Post Brexit the boundary between the 6 and 26 counties will be of greater significance as a EU border. Eire or Republic of Ireland for the 26 counties, Northern Ireland for the 6 counties and just Ireland for the whole island might just make it a bit clearer.
-----Original Message----- From: Colm Donoghue [mailto:colm.donog...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday 10 June 2020 11:17 To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland <talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] name=Ireland | Re: name=Éire / Ireland They both are Ireland There's lots of duplication of places, Louth village, is in Louth county... If you look at EU documents, with the names of the states, you see "Ireland" plain and simple vs the "Hellenic Republic" Only Hungary and Romania also have no qualifier to their official name. Colm On Mon 8 Jun 2020, 17:01 Neil O'Byrne, <neilw...@outlook.com> wrote: > Is there a name for the whole island? Hockey and rugby teams play > under the name Ireland and represent the whole island. Should there > be a clear distinction between the 26 county sovereign and independent > state, the 6 county part of the UK and the whole island on the west > side of the Irish Sea? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Burrett [mailto:n...@sqrt.co.uk] > Sent: Monday 8 June 2020 13:37 > To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland <talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] name=Ireland | Re: name=Éire / Ireland > > http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/cons/en/html#part2 > > For those that don't trust Wikipedia > > On Mon, 8 Jun 2020, 12:38 Karl Newsletters, <kagyj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Article 4 of the Constitution of Ireland, gives the state its two > > official names, Éire in Irish and Ireland in English. Each name is a > > direct translation of the other. From 1937, the name Éire was often > > used even in the English language. > > > > copy from wikipedia, so usual precautions apply > > > > > > On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 12:05, Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org> wrote: > > > > > I think `name=Ireland` is best. For `name`, the most commonly used > > > name in the place for the thing is what it should be. And, > > > whatever one things /should be/ the most common name, I think we > > > can all agree that what /is/ the most common name is “Ireland”. > > > > > > `int_name` is a silly tag. I haven't heard of a good definition of > > > that aside from “Name of the country in English”, which wronly > > > prioritises English. Why not `int_name=جزيرة أيرلندا`? > > > > > > On 07/06/2020 16:24, Neil O'Byrne wrote: > > > > The Irish euro coins just have Éire. So maybe name=Éire and > > > int_name=Ireland > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Colm Moore [mailto:colmmoor...@hotmail.com] > > > > Sent: Sunday 7 June 2020 14:56 > > > > To: talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > > > Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] name=Éire / Ireland > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/62273 > > > > > > > > Someone has set the name of the (Republic of) Ireland to "Éire / > > > Ireland". Whatever about Irish constitutional nuances, OSM usually > > > uses > > one > > > field=one piece of data. I'm inclined to change it to > > > name=Ireland, given that Ireland is the name that most people use. > > > > > > > > Separately, there is the matter of lots of the international > > > translations are of "Republic of Ireland" instead of "Ireland". > > > Does > > anyone > > > have thoughts on how to deal with potential grammatical issues in > > > rationalising these? > > > > > > > > Colm > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens > > > > can > > > change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. > > > Margaret > > Mead > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Talk-ie mailing list > > > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Talk-ie mailing list > > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-ie mailing list > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
