Huh, I though that secularization/atheisation of Ireland was quite far reaching and nearly complete.
(good thing that I included that diclaimer) "crucifixes in most classrooms" applies also to Poland, but "school boards pray at the start of board meetings" would be likely to be considered as ridiculous. AFAIK "teachers need to be certified to teach religion" applies only to teachers teaching religion here and "Religious organisations own the vast majority of schools" does not apply (mostly result of WW II damage and communist occupation). Oct 28, 2020, 15:13 by colmmoor...@hotmail.com: > Hi, > > This email is off-list. Thank you for the feedback - I'll wait for more > people to comment before I answer your questions.. > > In the Republic of Ireland, religion is fairly all-pervasive in schools. > Religious organisations own the vast majority of schools, school boards pray > at the start of board meetings, there are crucifixes in most classrooms, > teachers need to be certified to teach religion or it is difficult to get a > job, there are no Sunday schools. Inter-Denominational and > Multi-Denominational schools only account for 5% of schools and 7% of > students. Non-Denominational schools are essentially non-existent. The > religious organisations subvert the Department of Education. > > Northern Ireland isn't much different. > > The below data is for primary schools in the Republic of Ireland. > > Colm > > Mainstream Schools % Special Schools % Total % > Catholic 2,760 88.9% 105 78.4% > 2,865 88.4% > Church Of Ireland 172 5.5% 0.0% > 172 5.3% > Inter Denominational 17 0.5% 1 0.7% > 18 0.6% > Jewish 1 0.0% 0.0% 1 > 0.0% > Methodist 1 0.0% 0.0% > 1 0.0% > Multi Denominational 136 4.4% 19 14.2% > 155 4.8% > Muslim 2 0.1% 0.0% 2 > 0.1% > Presbyterian 16 0.5% 0.0% 16 > 0.5% > Quaker 1 0.0% 0.0% 1 > 0.0% > Other/Unknown 9 6.7% 9 0.3% > Total 3,106 100.0% 134 100.0% 3,240 > 100.0% > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 15:04:55 +0100 (CET) > From: Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com> > Cc: "talk-ie@openstreetmap.org" <talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] religion=* and denomination=* > Message-ID: <mken3bu--...@tutanota.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > Disclaimer: I never visited Ireland > > 27 paź 2020, 14:41 od colmmoor...@hotmail.com: > >> 3. Holy wells, mass rocks and the like. These are predominantly Roman >> Catholic, but possibly with pagan origins. >> > Are they still used by pagans/new age people? For OSM purposes current usage > matters, not origins. > >> 4. Some objects have dual tagging, e.g. religion=christian;pagan or >> denomination=protestant;roman_catholic Are people happy to have such tagging? >> > If say church is shared by Roman Catholic parish and Protestant congregation > and not > used by other denominations then denomination=protestant;roman_catholic is > 100% fine. > >> 5. Many religious-run schools do not have the religion or denomination >> tagged. >> > It is a bit tricky as at least some religious-run schools have absolutely no > trace of religion > in running of school, there is simply a religious owner/operator. > > In such cases operator:type=religious would fit better than religion tag > >> 8. There are religion=no, religion=none and denomination=none tags. Should >> these tags be rationalised or otherwise tidied up? >> > How this tags are used? > > denomination=none seems fine for say ecumenical chapel used by all kinds of > denomination > of a given religion... > >> multifaith 47 <---------------- >> > This may be actually valid. > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
