... Part way with James but recognising Jacek's point it would need adding 
bicycle=permissive or bicycle=yes as appropriate so that the cycle renderers 
pick up. Where appropriate (e.g. often in the UK) the use of 
designation=public_footpath (meaning that the default is bicycle=no unless 
otherwise modified with bicycle= ) or designation=public_bridleway (meaning 
that the default is bicycle=yes unless otherwise modified with bicycle= ). The 
adoption of the designation= tag in the UK seems to be a good solution to the 
dilemmas otherwise created by trying to compromise between tagging what is 
there on the ground and tagging for legal access status (with both purposes 
being valid objectives for at least a subset of users).


Mike Harris

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacek Konieczny [mailto:jaj...@jajcus.net] 
Sent: 30 April 2009 12:00
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:36:43AM +0100, James Stewart wrote:
> There are lots of paths that are primarily footpaths, but bikes can go 
> on them. I think that cycleway is best kept for paths that are 
> designed and designated for bicycles.

Sure.

> For example in our local park bikes can go on all the paths, but there 
> are some specific divided cycle paths too. (We are in Scotland so 
> bikes can legally go anywhere that pedestrians can go, more or less)

So such foot path rendered as a foot path only is not a problem for you, as you 
know that means bicycles  may go there.

In Poland generally bicycles are forbidden on ways for pedestrians, with many 
exceptions (if you go with a child, if other way is too far, if it is a 
sidewalk of a street where cars may go over specific speed…). And pedestrians 
are welcome on designated cycle-only ways. But many cycle ways are designated 
for both bicycles and pedestrians. So there is difference between 
highway=footway, highway=footway,bicycle=yes, highway=cycleway and 
highway=cycleway,foot=yes and it would be really good if all those could be 
distinguished, at least on a cycle map. And I agree that marking a footway a 
bicycleway only because bicycles my go there is kind of abuse and tagging for 
renderers (which have the data in other tags anyway). 

Greets,
        Jacek




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