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Hi Frederik,

Frederik Ramm schreef:
> Stefan de Konink wrote:
>> Exactly; if your statement is sound. CC-BY-SA doesn't protect us, thus
>> doesn't protect us against ourselves, thus OSMF could declare the data
>> today as ODbL, and wait to get sued by the editors that doesn't like
>> this change, if the CC-BY-SA holds the relicense has just been made a
>> copyright infringement and therefore wasn't required in the first place.
> 
> This is factually correct, but would you not expect a degree of
> "friendliness" over and above the call of law from those who run the
> project you contribute to?

If we can get sponsors for servers maybe a sponsoring for a legal case
wouldn't be a bad idea at all. If the OSMF could make a clear statement
'if CC-BY-SA holds we are not going to change it', the friendliness is
there and it will be in all our best interest.


> I don't think that "sorry guys, we tricked you into contributing under
> an invalid license, now all your stuff is basically PD anyway and we're
> going to relicense it in any way we want" is an attitude that would
> attract anyone to the project!

Hey SteveC tricked us all in here! Not to blame the rest of the board. ;)

And Steve, I am still thankful I ended up in this project when I was
Googling other people collecting GPS trails :)


> And I don't think you are honestly suggesting that either.

The point that Steve makes is based on the fact he can't trust the
CC-BY-SA anymore for the function he has used it before (mainly no other
licenses being available). The only way to prove this would be a case.
And don't forget, if a full database dump is made available under
CC-BY-SA knowingly it is all PD, wouldn't that be a MUCH worse situation
in this respect?


Stefan
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