On 6/10/2011 7:49 PM, Dermot McNally wrote:
On 11 June 2011 00:15, Nathan Edgars II<nerou...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think you're being deliberately obtuse
That's amusing coming from somebody who thinks he can inhibit the use
of data he has declared as PD, but let's carry on...
Eh? I don't think I can inhibit the use. I wish to 'vote' no.
, but I'll continue to assume
otherwise. In a democracy, there are no personal consequences for voting
either way. One's vote is counted, and *the final tally is the only thing a
vote counts for*. If yes voters and no voters are treated differently after
the vote, it's not a democratic vote.
Switzerland around the same time held a referendum on whether to ban
the building of Minarets. I expect that many Muslims voted against the
ban. The referendum was carried. No voters _are_ treated differently
after the vote.
The vote was democratic by any definition. It happens to be IMO a very
dark incident for democracy, but that doesn't take away from the
facts.
I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. Nobody is treated
differently based on how they voted, in contrast with the OSM license
change.
Hence the new license acceptance
process is not a democratic vote.
Your definition of democracy does not seem to accord with mine. Where
did you get it?
As an example,
http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/0/d0b7f023e8d6d9898025651e004bc0eb?Opendocument
#20
States should take measures to guarantee the requirement of the secrecy
of the vote during elections...
Obviously if there are personal consequences of voting a certain way,
the vote cannot be secret. The solution would have been to have two
clearly separate questions:
Do you think the license should be changed? (link to the pro- and anti-
pages on the wiki)
Are you willing to relicense your contributions?
Both results would be made public, but only the latter would be linked
to contributors.
In the real world, consequences of voting a certain way are generally
present in dictatorships that wish to have faux elections. I'm not
saying that the OSMF is holding such a faux vote, but if the license
change is treated as a vote that's the only kind of vote it can be
compared to.
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