On 2013-11-30 20:24, SomeoneElse wrote:

I understand the reticence on behalf of many people to criticise
suggestions from the (not being directly paid to do so) developers of
the osm.org site.  As a software developer myself, being asked "how am
I supposed to use _that_?" and being told "that's rubbish, please
start again!" aren't nice, but sometimes are necessary.  I'm also
aware of the alleged Henry Ford quote "If I had asked people what they
wanted, they would have said faster horses" - people are naturally
resistant to change, failing to appreciate changes that can allow
better things to happen in the future.  However in this case I think
the new design has genuinely got it wrong and needs a serious rethink
- what should be the site design that casual visitors see?  What about
regular mappers who just want to get at the "boring numbers"?

What comes to my mind is "If it ain't broken, don't fix it".
I fail to see the rationale behind changing the looks of the osm map page again.
What was wrong with it that needed to be fixed with this update?
It all seems so "Windows 8"ish to me (and while taste is personal, I do want to say that it is not a look that I like, and I hate that so many website do seem to adopt this style, like Microsoft is some kind of style guru).

I hadn't even noticed that the pages for individual nodes, ways and relations had changed. I immediately see one big problem with the "boxes in a small left column approach": what when there is a lot of data in the value? Have a look at <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/9133666/history> and notice how the tiger:source and tiger:tlid values get obscured by the map.

Maarten

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