On Monday 23 October 2017, Mikel Maron wrote: > [...] However ... I hope we can > also agree that it is counter productive to start off such > discussions in such an argumentative pose. I hear a lot of distrust > in phrases like "misrepresentation", "claiming ownership", "exactly > what HOT doesn't do".
This has nothing to do with trust, i looked at the website and describe my observations here. The term "misrepresentation" is from the trademark policy: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy#5.3._Misrepresentation If you think it is inappropriate to use such a term w.r.t. OSM trademarks this is probably something you need to discuss with the LWG. > It's emotionally draining for me to read things > like this, and I don't think I'm alone. Have you considered that it might be "emotionally draining" for OSM contributors to see the name of the project being used on a website like this without any links to OSM and mentioning of the fact that OSM is all about collaborative global mapping even without HOT or the tasking manager? FWIW - i do not feel emotionally drained about this, but i feel rather offended by your, Ian's and Clifford's reactions deflecting a matter-of-factly critique of that website and the resulting discussion about this and possible ways to improve it (and i welcome the constructive suggestions so far) into a discussion about what words may be used in discussion here. I would also like to remind you that one of the most important guiding principle in communication in OSM is to "assume good faith". I followed this principle here by describing my observations of the tasking manager without any interpretation as for why it is designed this way - although this is of course a question i did contemplate. It would be nice to see you doing me the same courtesy by arguing the topic at hand without insinuating "an argumentative pose", "distrust", "Combative questions" or a lack of respect. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
