On Friday 29 June 2018, Frederik Ramm wrote: > [...] > > So the ease of participating or customising has more or less already > gone down the drain; what's still good about OSM Carto is that at > least you can easily install it as-is on your own infrastructure (I > regularly do that for business clients), but I fear it is only a > matter of time until this aspect of usability, too, will be > abandoned, and you will have to run massive pre-computation jobs in > order to even get your map off the ground...
I think this is unlikely to happen. Pre-computation is essential for good quality maps at low to mid zoom levels but OSM-Carto was never particularly predestined for a leadership role in this field. In the past year or so many decisions have been made that define a fairly tight framework pointing away from using pre-computation. It is doubtful that even the move to water polygons for the coastlines, i.e. a small change in the way pre-computation is employed, will happen since there are design choices incompatible with this. There are other open map design projects which are more open to pre-computation techniques, in particular OpenTopoMap. Regarding splitting OSM-Carto into two styles - i have my doubts about this - both regarding if this makes sense and if it would work. But i think it would be very good to have this discussion on a more abstract level, i.e. what kind of map style or styles should the OSMF render on its infrastructure. The OSMF should obviously not try to initiate or manage map design projects themselves but existing or new independent projects might be interested in what it takes to have a chance to be supported by the OSMF in this form. We have guidelines for layers on osm.org hosted elsewhere: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tile_layers/Guidelines_for_new_tile_layers but we don't have any sort of policy or guideline regarding what is rendered on OSMF servers. As long as OSM-Carto is set for this and considered 'alternativlos' this is a non-issue but since it is clear that this will not necessarily be the case in all eternity and the idea is floated to maybe even render more than one style this becomes a relevant question. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk